[systemd-devel] systemd-network-wait-online symlinks to systemd-networkd

Kirill Elagin kirelagin at gmail.com
Wed Jun 11 09:15:44 PDT 2014


On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 3:24 AM, Mike Gilbert <floppym at gentoo.org> wrote:

> On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 5:50 PM, Lennart Poettering
> <lennart at poettering.net> wrote:
> > On Tue, 10.06.14 13:58, Mike Gilbert (floppym at gentoo.org) wrote:
> >
> >> > Symlinks should probably just be considered different type of file,
> that
> >> > have a contents and stuff. The contents is usually a file name, and
> >> > there's a size limit, but other than that it's just a magic kind of
> >> > file, where the symlink destination is the conents. That's how git
> >> > handles this, for example.
> >> >
> >> > I have the suspicion that this is really something to fix in your
> >> > package manager. It should learn to handle symlink upgrades the same
> way
> >> > as configuration file upgrades....
> >>
> >> The problem with installing these symlinks as part of a package is
> >> that the user may have removed them from /etc/systemd using systemctl
> >> disable. The next time they install systemd, the package puts the
> >> symlinks right back.
> >
> > Again, that's exactly what happens for configuration files too if you
> > use automake: on "make install" they are replaced by the original,
> > upstream versions. Why is recreating the symlinks bad, if overriding the
> > config files isn't?
> >
>
> People don't generally remove config files; they just make changes.
>
> On the other hand, removing the symlinks would be a very typical
> action due to the way systemctl disable works. There is some ambiguity
> as to what a missing symlink means: did the sysadmin remove it, or did
> it never exist in the first place?
>

But there is `equery f`, so it shouldn't be too hard to figure this out,
right?


>
> If systemctl disable would do something like create a symlink to
> /dev/null, that would be easier to detect.
>
> I suppose we should implement something like Debian's conffiles to
> protect file removals, but that's probably not going to be a very high
> priority given the small number of packages for which it really
> matters.
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