[systemd-devel] [PATCH] Fix systemd-stdio-bridge symlink

[Umut Tezduyar Lindskog]

Hi,

> -----Original Message-----
> From: systemd-devel-bounces at lists.freedesktop.org [mailto:systemd-
> devel-bounces at lists.freedesktop.org] On Behalf Of Simon McVittie
> Sent: den 4 mars 2014 12:56
> To: systemd-devel at lists.freedesktop.org
> Subject: Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH] Fix systemd-stdio-bridge symlink
> 
> On 04/03/14 11:00, Umut Tezduyar wrote:
> > Stable version of some distros (Debian Wheezy nor Ubuntu LTS 12.04)
> > still don't have support for this.
> 
> Does that actually matter much? This ln usage is at build time, not install time,
> and those stable versions aren't going to upgrade to a current systemd,
> because avoiding non-minimal upgrades is the whole point of stable distro
> releases.

As you have stated, it matters for build time and we have build machines not running the latest and greatest SW. I wouldn't be surprised if we are not alone. 

> 
> The development versions of Debian and Ubuntu, where a newer systemd
> will be introduced and compiled, already have recent coreutils and a
> somewhat recent systemd.
> 
> Having said that, for the packaged systemd on Debian and Ubuntu it's
> irrelevant whether these symlinks are relative or absolute, because dh_link
> will adjust them after installation to be in the form Debian Policy says they
> should be (absolute if symlink and target are in different top-level directories
> like /lib and /usr, relative if they are in the same top-level directory).
> 
> The situation that *does* matter on infrequently-released distributions
> (Debian stable, Ubuntu LTS, RHEL, SLED, etc.) is the upgrade from one stable
> release to the next; being able to install "most" packages from release n on
> release n-1, usually lowest-level/most-depended-on first, is desirable to
> avoid dependency loops (can't upgrade to the new pkgA without the new
> pkgB, can't upgrade to the new pkgB without the new pkgA, no way to
> proceed).
> 
>     S
> 
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