[systemd-devel] [PATCH] Drop the udev firmware loader

[Greg KH]

On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 04:41:01AM +0200, Michael Biebl wrote:
> 2014-05-30 4:32 GMT+02:00 Michael Biebl <mbiebl at gmail.com>:
> > 2014-05-30 4:26 GMT+02:00 Greg KH <gregkh at linuxfoundation.org>:
> >
> >> You update systemd but you don't update the kernel?  How does that make
> >> any sense?
> >
> > There might be very valid reasons why you need to stick with the old
> > kernel. As said, one example could be that the new one simply doesn't
> > boot. Requiring lock-step upgrades makes the system less
> > fault-tolerant.
> > So where possible this should be avoided.
> 
> What I'm trying to say here is: let's rip this code out once all
> stable distros out there in the wild ship a kernel with builti-in
> firmware loader support, but please not before.

What is "all"?

Do we really have to wait 10+ years just because some random disto
doesn't want to update their kernel?

Since when does systemd care about what random distros do?

> Keeping the userspace firmware loader for a little longer costs us
> nothing and simplifies things for downstreams. So let's be nice to
> them. I don't see a good reason to rush the removal of the userspace
> firmware loader.

Why not just port the in-kernel firmware loader to those kernel
versions?  That solves more problems than sticking with this code
does...

thanks,

greg k-h