[systemd-devel] Query regarding "EnvironmentFile"

[Reindl Harald]

 > only wanted to maintain a single unit file but cross
 > distribution compatibility and the importance of it
 > is something you dont seem to be capable of grasping
 > since the only use cases that matters is the one that
 > is specific and relevant to you"

no, but you don't grasp that options for systemd-units as well as units 
itself are not only relevant for distributions or upstream but also 
heavily used by sysadmins and that you have *no bussiness* to tell 
somebody "something you do via"

you are free to do that when someone asks for new features, but not in 
case of a planned regression - nothing else is taking features and 
options away

Am 10.12.2015 um 16:47 schrieb Reindl Harald:
> Am 10.12.2015 um 16:44 schrieb Jóhann B. Guðmundsson:
>> On 12/10/2015 03:20 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
>>>
>>> Am 10.12.2015 um 15:46 schrieb Jóhann B. Guðmundsson:
>>>> If you are unaware of any other use case for it
>>>
>>> EnvironmentFile=-/etc/sysconfig/httpd
>>> ExecStart=/usr/sbin/httpd $OPTIONS -D FOREGROUND
>>>
>>> [root at testserver:~]$ cat /etc/sysconfig/httpd
>>> OPTIONS="-D testserver"
>>>
>>> Apache:
>>> <IfDefine testserver>
>>> Include "conf/local/testserver.conf"
>>> </IfDefine>
>>>
>>> and now you can use the same systemd-unit on a dozens of machines and
>>> include specific config snippets WITOUT touch the systemd-unit or
>>> *anything* else in the apache configuration
>>
>> You apparently did not read or grasp what I said earlier.
>>
>> This is something you do via unit overwrite configuration snipped in
>> conjunction with your Apache configuration changes not in an environment
>> file.
>
> this is something *i do not* with unit overwrite configuration by
> intention because i DO NOT want to touch ExecStart on any machine
>
>>>> perhaps it's time to
>>>> start looking into obsoleting it
>>>
>>> don't get me wrong but you sound once again like seek for changes to
>>> break users configuration to later blame users why they did not fix
>>> which ain't broken
>>
>> You cannot be gotten right.
>>
>> The follow up cleanup process in Fedora that I needed to conduct after
>> the unit migration was completed, would have among other things
>> obsoleted and removed those Fedora/RedHat specific environment files
>> since it became clear immediately at that time that they had been
>> obsoleted
>
> cleanup whatever you want in Fedora, i don't use httpd or other server
> packages from the distribution at all - by removing "EnvironmentFile"
> from systemd you piss of users and sysadmins, not only distributions

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