[systemd-devel] Query regarding "EnvironmentFile"

[Reindl Harald]

Am 15.12.2015 um 18:59 schrieb Simon Peeters:
> 2015-12-10 15:20 GMT+00:00 Reindl Harald <h.reindl at thelounge.net>:
>>
>> Am 10.12.2015 um 15:46 schrieb Jóhann B. Guðmundsson:
>>>
>>> If you are unaware of any other use case for it
>>
>> EnvironmentFile=-/etc/sysconfig/httpd
>> ExecStart=/usr/sbin/httpd $OPTIONS -D FOREGROUND
>>
>> [root at testserver:~]$ cat /etc/sysconfig/httpd
>> OPTIONS="-D testserver"
>>
>> Apache:
>> <IfDefine testserver>
>> Include "conf/local/testserver.conf"
>> </IfDefine>
>>
>> and now you can use the same systemd-unit on a dozens of machines and
>> include specific config snippets WITOUT touch the systemd-unit or *anything*
>> else in the apache configuration
>>
>>> perhaps it's time to
>>> start looking into obsoleting it
>>
>> don't get me wrong but you sound once again like seek for changes to break
>> users configuration to later blame users why they did not fix which ain't
>> broken
>
> Why not do like normal people

"normal people" - what's wrong with you?

> and use configmanagement to put the
> right apache config on the right host?

because i know how to configure servers and don't need handholding tools 
since i develop my own admin backends for many years and services 
helping on repeatly needed taks but don't chain me to a limited subset 
of the supported options

> This whole "-D testserver" and "<IfDefine testserver>"  looks like an
> ugly workaround for a lacking configmanagment system.

config managements fpr webservers are ugly workaround for lacking 
knowledge and only fine for 08/15 setups but a no-go where you need 
flexibility

> More preciesly conf/local/testserver.conf probably shouldn't even
> exist on non testing mahines

guess why it's in the subfolder "local"

> '/etc/…/testserver.conf': ensure => absent }" in puppet

go away with that crap - only over my dead body besides Perl, PHP and 
Python now Ruby and it's dependencies would make it to any server here


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