[systemd-devel] user units and system units behavior

[Ivan Shapovalov]

On 2015-02-16 at 11:14 +0000, Simon McVittie wrote:
> On 14/02/15 18:26, Ivan Shapovalov wrote:
> > Yes, the per-session bus is there, but it is not used at all for
> > communication with per-user systemd instance.
> 
> I do want this to work, and I'm working on making it happen. It works on 
> my Debian system, with the patched dbus that I recently uploaded to 
> experimental.
> 
> When my patches on https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=61301 
> have been merged, if dbus is compiled with --enable-user-session and you 
> are running systemd, the per-login-session "dbus-daemon --session" will 
> be replaced by a per-user-session "dbus-daemon --session" (see earlier 
> thread for explanation of login session vs. user session). At that 
> point, the "dbus-daemon --session" can be suitable for communicating 
> with `systemd --user`.
> 
> (I believe the plan is (still) that kdbus systems will always have an 
> equivalent of this new per-user-session bus, and never a 
> per-login-session bus.)
> 
> > No, mine /etc/X11/xinitrc.d is Simon's /etc/X11/Xsession.d and "similar
> > setups". It's apparently a distro-specific path.
> 
> Yes. I think /etc/X11/xinitrc.d is what Red Hat and its derivatives use. 
> Xsession.d is used instead in Debian and its derivatives, including 
> Ubuntu. The differences are because, historically, this sort of plumbing 
> was something that every distribution had to invent for itself.
> 
>      S
> 

Thanks for the heads-up and your work, Simon. I'm also looking forward
for the time when all the bits are there. It means that `systemd --user`
will be finally able to launch various pieces of DE, right?

(Maybe with policykit patches to grant needed permissions to processes
under `systemd --user`...)

-- 
Ivan Shapovalov / intelfx /
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