[systemd-devel] [ANNOUNCE] systemd v221

[Filipe Brandenburger]

Guys let's try to be constructive here...

This time it shouldn't be too painful for downstreams since the revert
was the last patch to the man subtree so just a git revert of that
should get your trees to the state you need to get v221 packages for
Debian and Ubuntu. In that sense, I think we're still (slightly)
better off than we were in v220 and I think we have all we need to
solve this one for good in v222.

And let's use the momentum to try to solve this soon, in which case
you could even replace the revert of that commit with the backport of
the next one (which will probably remove the disted manpages).

Cheers,
Filipe


On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 7:40 AM, Michael Biebl <mbiebl at gmail.com> wrote:
> 2015-06-19 16:38 GMT+02:00 Lennart Poettering <lennart at poettering.net>:
>> On Fri, 19.06.15 16:29, Michael Biebl (mbiebl at gmail.com) wrote:
>>
>>> > If something is not in shape we'll revert it. Regardless of the
>>> > general merits of the patch set: this one actually broke stuff, it
>>> > was incomplete. Either you make the man pages dynamic, or you ship
>>> > them pre-built. The patch set did both. That's broken, and hence has
>>> > no place in a release. And I'd much rather see that stuff removed
>>> > again than having to delay the release further.
>>> >
>>> >> Not amused, not amused at all.
>>> >
>>> > I am sorry you feel that way.
>>> >
>>> > I am not sure though what you suggest: delay releases until zero
>>> > bugfixes have been applied for a week? Well, that would mean we'd
>>> > never do releases again, sorry. We have to release some time. On
>>>
>>> Bullshit. That's been in master for a while and the justification for
>>> reverting appear to totally made up.
>>
>> I wasn't the one who reverted it or even involved in the
>> discussions. But what I saw is that the patch was borked, since it one
>> one hand tried to ship the man pages pre-built but also wanted to make
>> them different depending on ./configure runs. And that's just
>> *broken*.
>
> The justification for the revert basically boil down to:
> let's make it as hard as possible and use systemd as a stick to force
> them to not use split-usr.
>
> The "arguments" for the for the patch being broken are completely made up.
>
>
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