[systemd-devel] Drop systemd-ui
lennart at poettering.net
Tue Mar 31 11:05:29 PDT 2015
On Tue, 31.03.15 11:01, Shawn Landden (shawnlandden at gmail.com) wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 10:35 AM, Lennart Poettering
> <lennart at poettering.net> wrote:
> > On Mon, 30.03.15 19:30, Shawn Landden (shawnlandden at gmail.com) wrote:
> >> > What do you feel is missing from systemctl show?
> >> It is only suppose to show fields that have been changed by humans
> >> (even the developer) not systemd defaults.
> > Hmm?
> > It supresses "empty" fields by default, unless you specify
> > --all in which cases it shows everything.
> > It really is supposed to show you everything that is in effect, not
> > just the stuff "humans" configured. If you want that, use "systemcl
> > cat".
> > I mean, "systemctl show" exists precisely to have a look at the effect
> > of implicit dependencies and such, which are otherwise difficult to
> > figure out.
> I should have been clearer about the language. Yes all this stuff it
> should show, but:
> These are all kernel defaults. These ARE empty, and a few of those are even 0.
Well, these actually are not kernel defaults. The LimitXYZ for example
are influenced by system.conf.
In general these are numeric values, and 0 is pretty much a numeric
value as any other.
We suppress empty strings and arrays, but not just numbers...
Anyway, I am not saying we couldn't improve the output of this, but I
certainly wouldn't say that this stuff is not being maintained.
Lennart Poettering, Red Hat
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