[systemd-devel] systemctl --user roadmap question

[Jeff Solomon]

That is good to hear and I look forward to seeing it enabled in el8!

On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 7:43 AM, Lukas Nykryn <lnykryn at redhat.com> wrote:

> That comment explains why --user was removed when centos7 was released.
> Although now we know that it will remain as it is in upstream, we don't
> plan to revert the removal in el7, since we are afraid of potential
> regressions that it might cause. I personally saw couple of logs where
> users had some automation that was creating tens of new ssh sessions every
> minute and if we would start systemd instance for every single one of them
> it would have negative effect on performance, which is not something we can
> do in late minor releases.
>
> Lukas
>
> On 17 November 2017 at 18:29, Lennart Poettering <lennart at poettering.net>
> wrote:
>
>> On Fr, 17.11.17 09:20, Jeff Solomon (jsolomon8080 at gmail.com) wrote:
>>
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > RHEL removed support for systemd "user services" because they said:
>> >
>> > "Basically we don't know if systemd --user will stay in systemd as is
>> right
>> > now.
>> > So we have decided to disable it completely so we will not hit
>> regression
>> > in future versions of centos."
>> >
>> > That statement was made 18 months ago.
>> >
>> > Any update from the systemd side? Is "systemctl --user" going to stay
>> the
>> > way it is? Dramatically change? Or even be removed? Just wondering if
>> there
>> > has been any decisions made on the roadmap for "systemctl --user".
>> >
>> > I personally find it VERY convenient to allow regular users to run their
>> > services using the power of systemd.
>>
>> Yes, it hasn't changed in any incompatible way since quite some time,
>> and I figure the comment should be ignored.
>>
>> Lennart
>>
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>> Lennart Poettering, Red Hat
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