[systemd-devel] vt220 default for serial console still relevant?

Christopher Cox ccox at endlessnow.com
Tue Jul 14 17:22:44 UTC 2020


On 7/14/20 3:19 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> On Mo, 13.07.20 18:16, Christopher Cox (ccox at endlessnow.com) wrote:
> 
>>> No vt220 does not support colour. I used to work on one and it is
>>> monochrome hardware.
>>> Xterm and konsole support extensions beyond vt220 that add in the colour support.
>>
>> Not sure how much (offtopic) history we want to get into.  I used the VT240
>> in my college graphics class.  The VT241 was the color variant.
>>
>> See: http://terminals-wiki.org/wiki/index.php/DEC_VT240
>>
>> I still meet programmers what hard code ansi sequences rather than querying
>> termcap/terminfo.  You know what they say about those who "assume".
> 
> Hmm, if vt241 is a bettre featured terminal type, and both xterm and
> the Linux console a superset of it, and the terminal widely available
> in termcaps and stuff we can certainly change our default TERM to be
> vt241.
> 
> Daan, if this all is the case, could you prep a PR?

I would think shooting for something low is actually good.  Let the individual 
configure for something "better".

I'm not sure I'm ready to say monochrome is obsolete.  There can be beauty in 
simplicity and function.  My preference, aim low, and allow easy configuration 
upward.  You could take the opposite stance of course, it's just that it could 
cause some frustration.

Just my opinion though.  I'm old and I think about a lot of things like 
terminals, "proxies" and callback modems... things of value, but most do not 
understand or care about anymore.




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