[systemd-devel] Using timedatectl on a readonly rootfile system using mender

[Shravan Singh]

 "is automatically acquire and automatically released and automatically
manage"
And this is just what a timezone. "I think this discussion kinda lost its
usefulness, I am just repeating myself"

Ohh I knew that you narcissist
Regards,
Shravan Singh
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On Fri, Sep 4, 2020 at 6:30 PM Lennart Poettering <lennart at poettering.net>
wrote:

> On Fr, 04.09.20 18:16, Shravan Singh (shravan at bluesparq.com) wrote:
>
> > What constitutes a configuration?
> > And please read my email subject. I can't have writable /etc, mender
> > dosen't allow that.
>
> Well, then that's sad, and something to bring up with mender? if they
> do not allow local config, then obviously your goals and their
> offerings apparently do not match given you want to cnfigure timezones
> locally, as I understand.
>
> > In today's mobile computing age you really think users shouldn't change
> > timezone?
>
> I don't think that. Do you?
>
> I am just saying: config is config, if you want writable config then
> make /etc writable. /etc is for local config. timezones are config,
> hence if you want changable timezones then make /etc writable. pretty
> logic, pretty easy.
>
> > You keep saying " I for one am certainly not convinced that the
> timezones"
> > but you don't explain why?
>
> transient state is when something only has validity during the
> current boot in the current context, is automatically acquire and
> automatically released and automatically managed.
>
> Config otoh is generally persistent, ultimately configured by some
> human or so and has is more of static nature.
>
> Timezone settings are usually man made, and assumed to be
> persistent. They aren't part of network params acquired via DHCP
> (well, DHCP actually has a field for that, but it's typically not
> used, at least I didn't find a single network in the wild that uses
> that) or a similar dynamic protocol.
>
> > Are you looking at this system as a static machine? That can never change
> > timezone?
>
> It's you who insists that /etc (and thus configuration) should be
> read-only, not me. It's you who's then upset that you cannot change
> configuration if /etc (and thus configuration) is read-only.
>
> I think this discussion kinda lost its usefulness, I am just repeating
> myself, and will thus refrain from further input on this thread. If my
> explanations aren't enough, aren't acceptable I think we both have to
> live with that.
>
> Lennart
>
> --
> Lennart Poettering, Berlin
>
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