[systemd-devel] Antw: [EXT] Re: [systemd‑devel] version bump of minimal kernel version supported by systemd?

Greg Kroah-Hartman gregkh at linuxfoundation.org
Thu Mar 24 08:45:33 UTC 2022


On Thu, Mar 24, 2022 at 09:33:50AM +0100, Ulrich Windl wrote:
> >>> Greg KH <gregkh at linuxfoundation.org> schrieb am 24.03.2022 um 08:12 in
> Nachricht <YjwZ56FP4Qgx3cMC at kroah.com>:
> > On Wed, Mar 23, 2022 at 10:34:00PM +0000, Dave Howorth wrote:
> >> FWIW, I think Greg was a bit too outspoken calling long maintenance
> >> attempts 'crazy'; that may have intimidated some. I'm thinking of
> >> moving distro to one that provides longer term maintenance than my
> >> present one. Although CIP is a completely different ball game; I hope
> >> they succeed.
> > 
> > It is not "crazy" it is "well documented".  As someone who has been
> > doing this work for 20+ years now and sees all of the stable kernel
> > patches flow by, it's obvious that a distro that does not keep up with
> > them is insecure by design.
> 
> If "newer is better" I'd agree. Sometimes "newer is actually worse".
> Some new features intended to improve things sometimes actually make things worse.

That's not the issue here.

Do you want to run a kernel with known security problems, or one with
"unknown potential problems."  The latter is always the case, so please
don't pick the known-insecure one, that's just foolish.

greg k-h


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