[systemd-devel] systemd-tty-ask-password-agent, new warning

Mantas Mikulėnas grawity at gmail.com
Wed Jul 9 15:40:54 UTC 2025


Does it also move "systemd-ask-password" to -extra?

For a distro that targets embedded devices (i.e. where services aren't
going to use systemd's ask-password facility because nobody will ever be
around to manually respond to such prompts for services *anyway*), I think
it would be fine to leave out these binaries from the main package and
patch out the warning or something like that...


On Wed, Jul 9, 2025, 16:58 James Muir (jamesmui) <jamesmui at cisco.com> wrote:

> >> Any comment on my other question:  is systemd-tty-ask-password an
> optional component?
> >
> > It is optional. You can skip it with --no-ask-password. If you did not,
> > it is assumed you wanted password agent and the warning is correct. It
> > is just a message, systemctl does not fail if it could not launch
> > password agent. So, even from this angle it is optional. Maybe you mean
> > "warning should be optional"?
>
> Thanks for your reply.
>
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> I want to know if it makes sense for the executable
> /usr/bin/systemd-tty-ask-password-agent to be absent.
>
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> OpenEmbedded puts systemd-tty-ask-password-agent in a separate
> install-package (systemd-extra-utils).
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> If you install the main systemd package, but not systemd-extra-utils, then
> /usr/bin/systemd-tty-ask-password-agent won’t exist on your system; but
> there is still a reference to /usr/bin/systemd-tty-ask-password-agent
> inside libsystemd-shared-255.so.
>
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> I wonder if systemd-tty-ask-password-agent should be moved into the main
> systemd package.
>
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> -James M
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