I'd buy into it if vfat weren't so brittle – several times I had to use syslinux in /boot because the ESP lost *both* kernels I had in it... "sync; sync; unmount; mount; check" was part of my kernel update ritual for a while. Maybe it's the Linux driver, maybe it's my UEFI that's bad at FAT, I dunno. I use /boot as ESP on the work laptop, but not really going to merge them on the personal one just yet. <div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Wed, Jun 1, 2016, 11:47 Colin Guthrie <<a href="mailto:gmane@colin.guthr.ie">gmane@colin.guthr.ie</a>> wrote: </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Lennart Poettering wrote on 30/05/16 17:47: > hence an acceptable alternatively might be to > introduce /efi and mount the esp there, and simply not have /boot on > legacy free systems. This might be the pragmatic way to get this schema more widely adopted. kernel-install could be modified to detect which is used and copy the kernel to the appropriate directory (or copy it to both). I really like the ESP as /boot approach but it's hard to get people to buy into it :( Col -- Colin Guthrie gmane(at)<a href="http://colin.guthr.ie" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">colin.guthr.ie</a> <a href="http://colin.guthr.ie/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://colin.guthr.ie/</a> Day Job: Tribalogic Limited <a href="http://www.tribalogic.net/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.tribalogic.net/</a> Open Source: Mageia Contributor <a href="http://www.mageia.org/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.mageia.org/</a> PulseAudio Hacker <a href="http://www.pulseaudio.org/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</a> Trac Hacker <a href="http://trac.edgewall.org/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://trac.edgewall.org/</a> _______________________________________________ systemd-devel mailing list <a href="mailto:systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org" target="_blank">systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org</a> <a href="https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/systemd-devel" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/systemd-devel</a> </blockquote></div>