<html xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:m="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"> <head> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"> <meta name="Generator" content="Microsoft Word 15 (filtered medium)"> <style></style> </head> <body lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"> <div class="WordSection1"> <div> <div> <div> <blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm"> <div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">Hello systemd developers,</span><o:p></o:p></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif"> </span><o:p></o:p></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">Currently, I am working on a task to reduce the boot time of an embedded product. systemd is used as the init system. I have a couple of questions, could you please clarify?</span><o:p></o:p></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif"> </span><o:p></o:p></p> <p class="gmail-m-8062236135579827350msolistparagraph"><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">1.</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt"> </span><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">From the systemd-analyze plot, I am seeing that it takes around 2 seconds to load the systemd unit files. Is there any way to reduce this time? I read a blog about systemd-readahead and systemd-replay services used in such cases to reduce the loading time, but it also have mentioned that the services are not maintained in the latest systemd versions. Is it advisable to use such services?</span><o:p></o:p></p> </div> </div> </blockquote> <div> <p class="MsoNormal">There still are other readahead implementations, although I doubt they'll help at all if you're reading from flash memory... also, they usually run as regular early services, after all units have loaded.<o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal">In fact, if something like *unit loading* is slow, you might have other problems... Use systemd-bootchart or other similar tools to figure out whether the loading is I/O-bound or CPU-bound. It could also be that some *unit generators* take a long time to run – consider masking or outright deleting some of them.<o:p></o:p></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Many thanks for your reply. Ya, I also have a similar question in mind so I tried to get the information from bootchart. But the flash system used in the project is NAND flash and I am seeing the disk utilization part of the bootchart to be empty. I had a discussion about this with a developer from another blog, he told me currently measurement is supported only for NOR flash. I am not sure if this is correct info. Do you have any idea on how can I measure the I/O during the startup. I have attached the part of bootchart for the reference.<o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> <blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm"> <div> <div> <p class="gmail-m-8062236135579827350msolistparagraph"><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">2.</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt"> </span><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">There are some systemd services which are used mostly for debugging purposes, so I tried to mask those services. My question is if the service is masked , do the service files gets loaded during the systemd initialization? I have masked around 5 services but I am not seeing any reduction in the systemd unit files loading time though there is a considerable reduction in the overall boot time.</span><o:p></o:p></p> </div> </div> </blockquote> <div> <p class="MsoNormal">AFAIK, no; systemd stops looking after it finds the first matching unit.<o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal">You could also remove the unneeded unit files entirely and compare the results. (But see reply to #1 first.)<o:p></o:p></p> </div> <blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm"> <div> <div> <p class="gmail-m-8062236135579827350msolistparagraph">3.<span style="font-size:7.0pt"> </span><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">I have read that the preferred way to have the mount points is to write in /etc/fstab. This will create a *.mount file using systemd_fstab_generator. I am seeing that in the project for the debugfs there is a systemd mount file defined in /lib/systemd/system/ and also an option present in /etc/fstab (</span>‘<i>debugfs /sys/kernel/debug debugfs noauto 0 0’).</i><o:p></o:p></p> </div> </div> </blockquote> <div> <p class="MsoNormal">On embedded systems, where you make your own rules, I'd say creating your own mount units would be more direct and easier to debug – also possibly avoiding a slow generator call.<o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal">(Though, on the other hand, some filesystems are mounted by src/core/mount-setup.c before processing any units. Later on, systemd-remount-fs applies options from fstab but not from custom .mount units...)<o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> </div> <blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm"> <div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;text-indent:18.0pt"> <span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">Which file has precedence when the system is initialized?</span><o:p></o:p></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif"> </span><o:p></o:p></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:18.0pt"> <span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">/lib/systemd/system/sys-kernel-debug.mount</span><o:p></o:p></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:18.0pt"> <span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">or</span><o:p></o:p></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:18.0pt"> <span lang="DE" style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">/run/systemd/generator/sys-kernel-debug.mount</span><o:p></o:p></p> </div> </div> </blockquote> <div> <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal">fstab takes priority over packaged .mount units – it's one of the ways sysadmins can override systemd default mount options.<o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal">The (mostly) full order is:<o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal">* /run/systemd/system<o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal">* /run/systemd/generator.early<o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal">* /etc/systemd/system<o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal">* /run/systemd/system<o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal">* /run/systemd/generator<o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal">* /usr/lib/systemd/system<o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal">* /lib/systemd/system<o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal">* /run/systemd/generator.late<o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal">See src/shared/path-lookup.c for the full (not-quite-documented) details.<o:p></o:p></p> </div> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> </div> <p class="MsoNormal">-- <o:p></o:p></p> <div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal">Mantas Mikulėnas <<a href="mailto:grawity@gmail.com" target="_blank">grawity@gmail.com</a>><o:p></o:p></p> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </body> </html>