<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">On Tue, Jul 9, 2019 at 4:28 PM Brian Reichert <<a href="mailto:reichert@numachi.com">reichert@numachi.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">On Tue, Jul 09, 2019 at 11:21:13AM +0100, <a href="mailto:systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org" target="_blank">systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org</a> wrote:<br>
> Hi Brian<br>
> <br>
> I feel embarrassed at having recommended you to join the systemd-devel<br>
> list :( I don't understand why nobody is responding to you, and I'm not<br>
> qualified to help!<br>
<br>
I appreciate the private feedback. I recognize this is an all-volunteer<br>
ecosystem, but I'm not used to radio silence. :/<br>
<br>
> There is a bit of anti-SUSE feeling for some reason<br>
> that I don't really understand, but Lennart in particular normally<br>
> seems to be very helpful, as does Zbigniew.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>It seems that Lennart tends to process his mailing-list inbox only every couple of weeks. He's a bit more active on GitHub however.</div><div><br></div><div>The rest of us are probably either waiting for a dev to make a comment, and/or wondering why such massive numbers of `systemctl` are being run on your system in the first place.</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<br>
I'm new to this list, so haven't seen any anti-SLES sentiments as<br>
of yet. But, based on the original symptoms I reported, this occurs<br>
on many distributions.<br>
<br>
> Perhaps it would be worth restating your problem. I would suggest<br>
> sticking to the facts of the problem as you have experienced them and<br>
> post the full logs somewhere so that people can see the problem. What is<br>
> logged when a server fails to reboot, for example.<br>
<br>
I'd love to restate the problem in a way that's tractable, and<br>
distinct from other people's reports of these symptoms. If you<br>
search the Internet for forum messages:<br>
<br>
systemd "Too many concurrent connections, refusing"<br>
<br>
You'll see a lot of hits. The only solutions I've seen to date is<br>
the systemd maintainers bumping up a hard-coded constant, a few<br>
times over the last few years.<br>
<br>
(The fact that they've adjusted it at least twice, but never went<br>
so far as to make it a tunable in a config file somewhere is<br>
worrisome.)<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I think there was a general expectation that almost nothing would *use* the private socket, except for `systemctl` in rare situations where the general D-Bus system bus is not [yet] available. Instead, all control (especially where efficiency was important) would flow through the main bus connection and wouldn't ever come close to hitting the private-connection cap.</div><div><br></div><div>(That said, `systemctl` was seemingly changed post-v226 (4fbd7192c5) to always try the private socket first.)</div></div><div><div><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr"><br></div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Jul 9, 2019, 22:29 Brian Reichert <<a href="mailto:reichert@numachi.com" target="_blank">reichert@numachi.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">On Tue, Jul 09, 2019 at 06:20:02PM +0100, <a href="mailto:systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org</a> wrote:<br>> <br>> Posting private messages to a public list is generally considered very<br>> RUDE.<br><br>I agree, and I apologize.<br><br>The message I received, and replied to, did not come from a private<br>email address; it apparently came from the mailing list software,<br>and I did not realize that until I hit 'reply':<br><br> Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2019 11:21:13 +0100<br> From: <a href="mailto:systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org</a><br> To: Brian Reichert <<a href="mailto:reichert@numachi.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">reichert@numachi.com</a>><br> Subject: OFFLIST Re: [systemd-devel] systemd's connections to<br> /run/systemd/private ?<br></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">That's quite an odd glitch. Why would a private, offlist message come from the mailing list software (or be made to appear as if it came from the mailing list software)?</div></div><div><br></div>-- <br><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr">Mantas Mikulėnas</div></div></div>