Wayland design and source code documentation

Artsiom Anikeyenka arty.anikey at gmail.com
Thu Dec 19 07:13:03 PST 2013

That's absolutely right and I realize that very well. But you need to think
of total newcomers (as I am). I like graphics and I decided to look around
how that stuff works nowadays under the hood. To have a big picture, before
I start implementing something on top of that. I don't know X11 and I don't
want to know it (it's being replaced why learn it). And what wayland
documentation provides is how wayland is going to replace X comparing both.
This is good for olders but how am I (and other newcomers) supposed to get
involved if I (they) want.

That's why I asked.

Wayland is just another layer between subsystems. How does it communicate
with them? A simple picture showing wayland as a node of the graph of
subsystems (or just singly-linked list maybe) would be really-really
helpful because it would give a lot of info on what it is and why it's
there. With that in mind understanding the code would also be easier.

http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/IntroductoryCourse/ - this is a good
example of getting people involved.

Now I'm ready for starting to dig the code but it costed a lot of time.

Have a great day all.

On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 8:36 PM, Jasper St. Pierre <jstpierre at mecheye.net>wrote:

> Wayland has a lot of components: the code generator, the protocol, the
> client/server lib implementation, the design decisions we made to tie it
> all together. Yes, we aren't the greatest at documentation and we know that
> a lot is missing, but in general we assume experience with traditional
> toolkits, compositors/WMs, and in some cases, leftover knowledge from X11.
> There's also Weston, the de facto, most feature-complete, reference
> compositor. That has input management, output management, rendering,
> protocol implementations, clients, etc.
> In order for us to help you through the codebase and improve
> documentation, we sort of need to know what pieces you're interested in,
> and what you're having trouble understanding.
> On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 3:57 AM, Artsiom Anikeyenka <arty.anikey at gmail.com
> > wrote:
>> Hmmm, thanks, but I've seen those. I though maybe there is something
>> more. Ok I guess the good question will be:
>> Do most of developers find it detailed and descriptive enough?
>> I mean I'm still learning so maybe I just don't know enough to understand.
>> Thanks, and have a very good day :)
>> On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 2:02 AM, Bryce W. Harrington <
>> b.harrington at samsung.com> wrote:
>>> On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 11:32:09PM +0300, Artsiom Anikeyenka wrote:
>>> > Hi guys,
>>> >
>>> > Is there a detailed documentation of wayland source code. Any good
>>> > visualization of the design? Are there any plans on adding/creating
>>> those?
>>> >
>>> > Thanks and be good.
>>> http://wayland.freedesktop.org/architecture.html
>>> http://wayland.freedesktop.org/docs/html/
>>> The former includes a couple block diagrams.
>>> The latter includes the client and server API's and the protocol
>>> specification, which are generated from the wayland codebases.
>>> Bryce
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> --
>   Jasper
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