Kinetic scroll in libinput Xorg driver

Peter Hutterer peter.hutterer at
Thu Oct 27 23:06:47 UTC 2016

On Thu, Oct 27, 2016 at 02:44:31PM +0100, adlo wrote:
> > On 25 Oct 2016, at 12:08, Peter Hutterer <peter.hutterer at> wrote:
> > 
> > ok, this will be unpopular with the internets, but the times of "I don't
> > want to have a DE" are over. yes, you can still do it. you can run
> > scripts in xinit to set up things, but the vast majority of users will
> > need to/want to have a DE running that takes care of things dynamically.
> > Hardware has moved on since the 80s, so has the functionality we've come
> > to expect. It's not enough anymore to throw a few pieces of metal on the
> > ground and say "here's your car". you can still do it, but you're now
> > talking about a tiny subset of users that want things that way.
> > 
> > so the case of no DE is niche in X, and effectively non-existent in
> > wayland (because you *need* a compositor).
> What is the minimum setup that is possible with Wayland?

that's the wrong question. Wayland is a protocol and though it does come
with it's own C library (libwayland) that on its own is not much. You need a
compositor to actually display anything, and then everything else around it.

Let's use an analogy: HTTP is a protocol. So you might as well ask "what's
the minimum setup that is possible with HTTP".  That largely depends on what
you want to be able to achieve. IVI has different requirements to a laptop
desktop environment, so the minimum setup requirements are different.


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