wayland-protocols scope and governance

Simon Ser contact at emersion.fr
Wed Apr 17 20:01:41 UTC 2019

On Wednesday, April 17, 2019 10:06 PM, Drew DeVault <sir at cmpwn.com> wrote:
> > On the mailing list front, I think wayland-devel@ is probably quiet
> > enough these days - and focused on common protocol-like stuff - that
> > we could probably just reuse that list.
> -1, it's way too noisy imo.

I'm fine with both proposals -- keeping wayland-devel or using a new
list. We could always start by using wayland-devel and switch to a new
list if it becomes necessary.

> > But that being said, I would strongly advocate for doing review
> > through GitLab. For the implementations and users I can think of -
> > Chromium, EFL, Enlightenment, Firefox, GStreamer, GTK, KWin, Mesa,
> > Mutter, Qt, SDL, Weston, wlroots - plus Wayland core itself, all of
> > them use web review tools (Bugzilla x1, Gerrit, GitHub, GitLab,
> > Phabricator, Reitveld x1) as their sole review method with the
> > exception of Mesa, which also allows mailing-list submissions. I get
> > that sr.ht is working on a decent mailing-list review workflow, but
> > what we have today with Patchwork definitely isn't that.
> I'll begrudgingly concede to patch review on Gitlab, even if it's 10x
> more work to get your patches out there. I think that discussions ought
> to stay on a mailing list, though. It's just a better medium for them,
> and everyone has an email account.
> > Given that, I'm prepared to push hard for using web-based review as
> > the status-quo for how we all do our own protocol development anyway.
> I'll guess I'll just formally register a strong NACK, but I feel like
> I'm shouting at a tree.
> I know it's hard to turn a blind eye to my vested interests in mailing
> list driven development, but even on GNU mailman I prefer mailing lists.
> There's a reason I built my platform that way, after all. I genuinely
> think it's a better model.

I'd personally prefer GitLab. I think Daniel summarized the reasons why
it would be better pretty well. One could also consider the positive
impact GitLab had on Weston development.

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