<html xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:m="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"> <head> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"> <meta name="Generator" content="Microsoft Word 15 (filtered medium)"> <style></style> </head> <body lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"> <div class="WordSection1"> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Thanks you very much! New to wayland, so a lot to learn.<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p> <div> <div style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"> <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Ucan, Emre (ADITG/ESB) [mailto:eucan@de.adit-jv.com] <br> <b>Sent:</b> Thursday, January 04, 2018 2:17 AM<br> <b>To:</b> Han, Guowei <Guowei.Han@johnsonoutdoors.com>; Jasper St. Pierre <jstpierre@mecheye.net>; wayland <wayland-devel@lists.freedesktop.org><br> <b>Subject:</b> RE: Window positioning<o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> </div> <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Hi Han,<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">In ivi-shell architecture, there are controller plugins which controls the layout of surfaces on the display. The controller plugins are using ivi_layout_interface to do that.<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">In weston repository, we have hmi-controller plugin which is good for demo purposes. But it is not suitable for production use-cases.<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Please check <a href="https://github.com/GENIVI/wayland-ivi-extension">https://github.com/GENIVI/wayland-ivi-extension</a>. There, we have ivi-controller plugin which enables you to control the layout via ivi_wm protocol.<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">You can use ivi-wm protocol directly in your Window Manager app, or you can use ilmControl library, or you can use LayerManagerControl command line tool to control the layout of surfaces.<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Best regards</span><span style="font-size:8.0pt;color:#1F497D"><br> </span><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><br> </span><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Emre Ucan</span></b><span style="font-size:8.0pt;color:#1F497D"><br> </span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Engineering Software Base (ADITG/ESB)</span><span style="font-size:8.0pt;color:#1F497D"><br> </span><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><br> </span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Tel. +49 5121 49 6937</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p> <div style="border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt"> <div> <div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"> <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif"> wayland-devel [<a href="mailto:wayland-devel-bounces@lists.freedesktop.org">mailto:wayland-devel-bounces@lists.freedesktop.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Han, Guowei<br> <b>Sent:</b> Mittwoch, 3. Januar 2018 18:39<br> <b>To:</b> Jasper St. Pierre; wayland<br> <b>Subject:</b> RE: Window positioning<o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> </div> <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Thanks for all the help. Will start look into ivi-shell.<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> <a href="mailto:magcius@gmail.com">magcius@gmail.com</a> [<a href="mailto:magcius@gmail.com">mailto:magcius@gmail.com</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jasper St. Pierre<br> <b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, January 03, 2018 12:28 PM<br> <b>To:</b> Han, Guowei <<a href="mailto:Guowei.Han@johnsonoutdoors.com">Guowei.Han@johnsonoutdoors.com</a>>; wayland <<a href="mailto:wayland-devel@lists.freedesktop.org">wayland-devel@lists.freedesktop.org</a>><br> <b>Subject:</b> Re: Window positioning<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> <div> <p class="MsoNormal">(Please Reply All in the future so that responses go to the mailing list)<br> <br> Hi Han,<br> <br> In that case, you should probably use a protocol designed for embedded surface layout, like ivi-shell, rather than xdg-shell. Embedded, static-size display is a very different use case than a modern desktop system which requires hotplug and multimonitor layouts.<o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> <div> <p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, Jan 3, 2018 at 9:26 AM, Han, Guowei <<a href="mailto:Guowei.Han@johnsonoutdoors.com" target="_blank">Guowei.Han@johnsonoutdoors.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p> <blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt"> <div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">We are not allowing user move position since we are in an embedded system. So that’s not an issue for us. We don’t even have a mouse connected.</span><o:p></o:p></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> <a href="mailto:magcius@gmail.com" target="_blank">magcius@gmail.com</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:magcius@gmail.com" target="_blank">magcius@gmail.com</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jasper St. Pierre<br> <b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, January 03, 2018 12:24 PM<br> <b>To:</b> Han, Guowei <<a href="mailto:Guowei.Han@johnsonoutdoors.com" target="_blank">Guowei.Han@johnsonoutdoors.com</a>><br> <b>Cc:</b> Kai-Uwe <<a href="mailto:ku.b-list@gmx.de" target="_blank">ku.b-list@gmx.de</a>>; wayland <<a href="mailto:wayland-devel@lists.freedesktop.org" target="_blank">wayland-devel@lists.freedesktop.org</a>><br> <b>Subject:</b> Re: Window positioning</span><o:p></o:p></p> <div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p> <div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Hi Han,<br> <br> Allowing yourselves to place multiple windows where you want it then isn't going to solve that problem, since users can still drag them around, minimize them, etc. Multiprocess rendering is a bit tricksy, and there's no standardized way to do it right now. The traditional technique is to build your own Wayland compositor inside your application, which is a bit heavyweight, and then use wl_subsurface to composite the results. This is what e.g. WebKit2's architecture does, and it's something I've tried to implement in the past [0]. As the scope of a Wayland compositor becomes larger and larger over time, I think this is starting to become a bit impractical. It might be worth looking into a multi-process buffer-sharing protocol as a Wayland extension, since it's a use case that keeps coming up.<o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">[0] <a href="https://github.com/magcius/wakefield" target="_blank">https://github.com/magcius/wakefield</a><o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p> <div> <p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">On Wed, Jan 3, 2018 at 5:23 AM, Han, Guowei <<a href="mailto:Guowei.Han@johnsonoutdoors.com" target="_blank">Guowei.Han@johnsonoutdoors.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p> <blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt"> <div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">We are running a multi process application. And GUI is act as a transparent top layer. All other process rendering by them self underneath. So its important for other process to place the window at right potion.<br> <br> Sent from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt"><br> On Jan 3, 2018, at 2:58 AM, Kai-Uwe <<a href="mailto:ku.b-list@gmx.de" target="_blank">ku.b-list@gmx.de</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p> </div> <blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"> <div> <p>Maybe you are after a full screen application then. With that you should be able to decide about the positioning on the whole output.<o:p></o:p></p> <div> <p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Am 03.01.2018 um 02:37 schrieb Han, Guowei:<o:p></o:p></p> </div> <blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"> <div> <p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Thanks Jasper. Do u know if there's a demo i can learn from? Currently i am creating a bigger surface bigger than screen size. and make subsurface so i can posion them as i want. Really don't think its a good way to do it.<br> <br> Sent from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt"><br> On Jan 2, 2018, at 4:25 PM, Jasper St. Pierre <<a href="mailto:jstpierre@mecheye.net" target="_blank">jstpierre@mecheye.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p> </div> <blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"> <div> <p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt">*EXTERNAL EMAIL* <o:p></o:p></p> <div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Hi Han, <o:p></o:p></p> <div> <p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">You cannot position surfaces absolutely using the traditional xdg-shell protocol. However, for embedded cases, there are protocols like ivi-shell which provide that functionality.<o:p></o:p></p> </div> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p> <div> <p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">On Fri, Dec 29, 2017 at 10:09 AM, Han, Guowei <<a href="mailto:Guowei.Han@johnsonoutdoors.com" target="_blank">Guowei.Han@johnsonoutdoors.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p> <blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt"> <div> <div> <p class="m8653647155667067159gmail-msonormal">Hi,<o:p></o:p></p> <p class="m8653647155667067159gmail-msonormal"> <o:p></o:p></p> <p class="m8653647155667067159gmail-msonormal">Wonder if there’s a way we can position window to anywhere we want using wayland or maybe weston?<o:p></o:p></p> <p class="m8653647155667067159gmail-msonormal"> <o:p></o:p></p> <p class="m8653647155667067159gmail-msonormal">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></p> <p class="m8653647155667067159gmail-msonormal"> <o:p></o:p></p> </div> <p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">The information in this email and any attachments may contain proprietary and confidential information that is intended for the addressee(s) only. 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