<div dir="ltr">I think that keeping it only promotes using it and further propagating its use, so I'm in favor of removal.</div> <div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 11:22 AM Derek Foreman <<a href="mailto:derekf@osg.samsung.com">derekf@osg.samsung.com</a>> wrote: </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hello, As you all may know, xdg-shell v5 and xdg-shell stable can't currently co-exist in the same compositor, as both define structures with the same name (such as struct xdg_surface_interface). A solid effort was made to add functionality to wayland-scanner to resolve this, but turned out to be a Very Hard Problem: <a href="https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/wayland-devel/2018-January/036549.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/wayland-devel/2018-January/036549.html</a> Is a good summary of where that patch series currently sits. That leaves us with a bit of a problem - weston currently support xdg-shell v5, and that's blocking any chance of adopting xdg-shell final. It's my opinion that supporting xdg-shell final is rather important for the wayland reference compositor. So, I think we need to consider removing xdg-shell v5 from weston and its included clients as soon as is reasonable. It should probably be considered deprecated since the introduction of xdg-shell v6 into wayland-protocols in late 2015. I'm sure there are still users out there, but it has always been labeled "unstable" with a firm promise that it would disappear eventually. Do we have any opinions on when we can strip this out? I think keeping it for the next release and removing it immediately after is pragmatic (with a firm warning in the release notes that this is coming). Myself, I'd be happy to start drafting patches to remove it immediately - weston isn't intended to be anyone's desktop, so I don't think arguments that some released software will fail to run on weston should be given substantial weight... Also, I don't think toytoolkit clients failing to connect to a compositor that only has v5 support is a major concern either. Thanks, Derek _______________________________________________ wayland-devel mailing list <a href="mailto:wayland-devel@lists.freedesktop.org" target="_blank">wayland-devel@lists.freedesktop.org</a> <a href="https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/wayland-devel" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/wayland-devel</a> </blockquote></div>