<html xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:m="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"> <head> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=Windows-1252"> <meta name="Generator" content="Microsoft Word 15 (filtered medium)"> <style></style> </head> <body lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="#954F72" style="word-wrap:break-word"> <div class="WordSection1"> <o:p> </o:p> <o:p> </o:p> <div style="mso-element:para-border-div;border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"> From: <a href="mailto:raster@rasterman.com">Carsten Haitzler</a> Sent: Tuesday, August 3, 2021 10:47 AM To: <a href="mailto:ddeyo@tireprofiles.com">David Deyo</a> Cc: <a href="mailto:wayland-devel@lists.freedesktop.org">wayland-devel@lists.freedesktop.org</a> Subject: Re: FW: xrandr and xwayland </div> <o:p> </o:p> CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. On Tue, 3 Aug 2021 15:00:44 +0000 David Deyo <ddeyo@tireprofiles.com> said: > > > From: Carsten Haitzler<<a href="mailto:raster@rasterman.com">mailto:raster@rasterman.com</a>> > Sent: Tuesday, August 3, 2021 9:38 AM > To: David Deyo<<a href="mailto:ddeyo@tireprofiles.com">mailto:ddeyo@tireprofiles.com</a>> > Cc: > wayland-devel@lists.freedesktop.org<mailto:wayland-devel@lists.freedesktop.org> > Subject: Re: FW: xrandr and xwayland > > CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. Do not click > links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the > content is safe. > > > On Tue, 3 Aug 2021 13:40:25 +0000 David Deyo <ddeyo@tireprofiles.com> said: > > > From: Carsten Haitzler<<a href="mailto:raster@rasterman.com">mailto:raster@rasterman.com</a>> > > Sent: Tuesday, August 3, 2021 8:13 AM > > To: David Deyo<<a href="mailto:ddeyo@tireprofiles.com">mailto:ddeyo@tireprofiles.com</a>> > > Cc: > > wayland-devel@lists.freedesktop.org<mailto:wayland-devel@lists.freedesktop.org> > > Subject: Re: FW: xrandr and xwayland > > > > CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. Do not > > click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the > > content is safe. > > > > > > On Tue, 3 Aug 2021 13:04:11 +0000 David Deyo <ddeyo@tireprofiles.com> said: > > > > > > > > > > > From: David Deyo<<a href="mailto:ddeyo@tireprofiles.com">mailto:ddeyo@tireprofiles.com</a>> > > > Sent: Monday, August 2, 2021 3:53 PM > > > To: Pekka Paalanen<<a href="mailto:ppaalanen@gmail.com">mailto:ppaalanen@gmail.com</a>> > > > Subject: RE: xrandr and xwayland > > > > > > On Fri, 30 Jul 2021 23:30:38 +0100 > > > Carsten Haitzler <raster@rasterman.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Fri, 30 Jul 2021 16:28:02 +0000 David Deyo <ddeyo@tireprofiles.com> > > > > said: > > > > > > > > No - this is up to the compositor itself to do in its own internal ways. > > > > Far too many abuses have happened over the years with xrandr available > > > > to any client anywhere. While in theory a wayland compositor could > > > > create an extension that works like xrandr, it'd be problematic to make > > > > it general-access like xrandr. > > > > > > >>>Indeed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello everyone, > > > > > > > > > > I need to rotate my screen 90 degrees and back to normal in xwayland > > > > > on an iMX8 running gatesgarth distro. > > > > > > >>>Maybe you could explain your top-level use case for this, and the > > > >>>general system architecture (which relevant programs are running and > > > >>>what their responsibilities are)? > > > > > > Distro: > > > I am working on a product that our company is creating. It uses an imx8 > > > som from Boundary. The system is not a normal desktop. The DISTRO is > > > created by yocto using the gatesgarth branch. Just recently we were > > > notified that Xwayland was working, so I don’t expect we will be removing > > > it just yet. > > > > > > > > > Use case: > > > We will have a kiosk-looking desktop. Some of our pages will have the > > > option for the end user to enter text from an on-screen keyboard. Since > > > our display will be so small (68.04mm (2.68") x 120.96mm (4.76")), we > > > will have to turn our unit sideways to make the keyboard fit. We have > > > already done this on a smaller screen (1.0). On our 1.0 product, we used > > > Segger as our graphics library. Compared to Android, and the like, it > > > seems like rotating the screen would be a standard capability. > > > > > > I believe our compositor (Weston) can do it, transform=90, but to use this > > > method, it has to be restarted; causing our gui app to crash and lose all > > > entered data. The client probably needs to drive the orientation. > > > Considering our gui will likely be in python3/tkinter, I will need some > > > way create a page and rotate the display. > > > > > > I am somewhat limited by the packages available to me in my distro. > > > > > > > >The right way here is to modify Weston to do on-the-fly rotation > > > > > >without a restart. You also will want a custom protocol from client > > > > > >to compositor to indicate when a client surface wants rotation. This > > > > > >way the compositor can correctly rotate the client content and any > > > > > >other on-screen content at the time > > > > > > (e.g. keyboard) when that client surface is the active visible one > > > > > > (as a kiosk > > > > > >style only one will be active/visible at a time - except for things > > > > > >like keyboard etc.). When you switch which surface is the active one > > > > > >then the compositor can re-evaluate how to draw on the screen based > > > > > >on what that client has requested rotation-wise. > > Thank you, > > A custom protocol makes sense. > > > > 1. What’s the best way to communicate with Weston, socket, message, > > function call? > > > > > > > >Wayland protocol. You can create extensions as XML files and use > > > > > > >wayland-scanner to generate C code to handle that protocol. > Ok, thanks. > > > 2. How would Weston actually rotate the display, in particular on the > > fly? In the Weston documentation, it states that a super-kbd key and middle > > mouse button should rotate the display (if supported). I’d like to find > > where that is, as well. > > > > > > > >Any number of ways. It could modify the KMS device properties for > > > > > > >that output to rotate. It could render rotated (in GL transform > > > > > > >the triangle coordinates when rendering) or in software render the > > > > > > >pixels rotated as you read and write them from one place to > > > > > > >another (various algorithms can be used here). Weston already can > > > > > > >do these so it's just a matter of gluing together the code with > > > > > > >your protocol and some logic. > Excellent, along with rotation, I will also need to keep touch working > correctly. Does that decide any of the ways over the other? > >:Again - Weston would deal with this and probably already does. Glue it all in > >:with the protocol. :)<o:p></o:p> Thanks a bunch.<o:p></o:p> -dwd -- ------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -------------- Carsten Haitzler - raster@rasterman.com<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> </div> </body> </html>