<div dir="ltr">Dude, I'm trying to persuade the wayland devs to change this, not have an argument about how much wayland sucks. Thanks for explaining that this was supposed to be a feature though. I hadn't known that before.</div> <div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Aug 4, 2022 at 3:14 PM Igor Korot <<a href="mailto:ikorot01@gmail.com">ikorot01@gmail.com</a>> wrote: </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Hi, On Thu, Aug 4, 2022 at 12:37 PM samuel ammonius <<a href="mailto:sfammonius@gmail.com" target="_blank">sfammonius@gmail.com</a>> wrote: > > Compositors can prevent apps from doing this if they want to, but there needs to be some built-in way for windows to set their positions. Not having this isn't a feature. I am not a Wayland developer. But based on the multiple replies here and there - it is the main feature of the Wayland. It will never allow the application to set its position/size. It will however allow the end-user (a human) to configure Wayland (compositor) in any waythey want and however stupid they want. And Wayland developers consider it to be "BIG WAYLAND FEATURE". So forget about cross-platform applications behaving the same, forget about even writing sane application on Linux. Wayland (compositor) will be set up by the user (a human) in such a way so that the application could become completely unusable. Thank you. > > On Thu, Aug 4, 2022 at 2:57 PM Igor Korot <<a href="mailto:ikorot01@gmail.com" target="_blank">ikorot01@gmail.com</a>> wrote: >> >> On Thu, Aug 4, 2022 at 12:06 PM Simon Ser <<a href="mailto:contact@emersion.fr" target="_blank">contact@emersion.fr</a>> wrote: >> > >> > On Thursday, August 4th, 2022 at 19:00, samuel ammonius <<a href="mailto:sfammonius@gmail.com" target="_blank">sfammonius@gmail.com</a>> wrote: >> > >> > > apps such as popups and dialogs are usually supposed to start either >> > > at the center of the screen or the center of their parent app >> >> You are barking at the wrong tree. >> >> Apparently this is the main feature of the Wayland - do not let the developers >> set up the position of the TLW. >> >> > >> > That's usually what compositors do: center apps by default. But it's to >> > the compositor and user preference. >> > >> > > apps often want to remember where they were when they closed so they >> > > can open there again >> > >> > This is what [1] addresses. >> > >> > [1]: <a href="https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wayland/wayland-protocols/-/merge_requests/18" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wayland/wayland-protocols/-/merge_requests/18</a> >> >> Finally!! ;-) >> Now if only Wayland can respect the calls such as >> CenterOnScreen()/CenterOnParent() >> for the dialog-like windows it would be great. >> >> Unfortunately it looks like this will never happen and the application >> developers will >> have to throw away their software, because apparently dialogs can be >> put anywhere >> on the screen. >> >> Something like a dialog asking for credentials to login to the DB that >> shows up in the >> top left corner, because some idiot user set it this way. >> >> Thank you. </blockquote></div>