<div dir="ltr">(I accidentally sent that without finishing it. Just ignore it)</div> <div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Aug 5, 2022 at 5:54 PM Igor Korot <<a href="mailto:ikorot01@gmail.com">ikorot01@gmail.com</a>> wrote: </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Hi, Samuel, On Fri, Aug 5, 2022 at 3:21 PM samuel ammonius <<a href="mailto:sfammonius@gmail.com" target="_blank">sfammonius@gmail.com</a>> wrote: > > I don't understand what all the talk is about when discussing whether > it should be up to the compositor or app to set a window's position. Right now under Wayland ONLY the compositor decides the position where the window is created. Always!! No exceptions. Thank you. > > On Fri, Aug 5, 2022 at 2:30 PM Daniel Stone <<a href="mailto:daniel@fooishbar.org" target="_blank">daniel@fooishbar.org</a>> wrote: >> >> On Fri, 5 Aug 2022 at 17:21, Igor Korot <<a href="mailto:ikorot01@gmail.com" target="_blank">ikorot01@gmail.com</a>> wrote: >> > On Thu, Aug 4, 2022 at 9:20 PM Thiago Macieira <<a href="mailto:thiago@kde.org" target="_blank">thiago@kde.org</a>> wrote: >> > > No, they are about position too. 100,100 on a 1920x1080 resolution is about 5% >> > > to the right of the left edge and 10% from the top. 100,100 on 3840x2160 is >> > > 2.5% from the left and 5% from the top, on the same monitor. The user has a >> > > right to expect the same finger-width position on the screen, relative to where >> > > their eyes are looking at. >> > >> > No, they are not. >> > It should be up to the application to decide the coordinate system PPI/DPI/etc. >> >> This is why there is no value in this discussion. You are making >> assertions like this as if they are axiomatic. >> >> It would be possible to redesign Wayland following the principles you >> have described. No-one is doing this, however. We have carefully >> considered the points you have raised over the past 14 years and >> reached different conclusions. I'm sorry that Wayland is not the >> perfect window system you envisage in your own head, but just >> repeating your same beliefs that the design is fundamentally flawed >> over and over, will not force us to change the design. </blockquote></div>