Fwd: Forward: K-ARTIST: Re: New project request/idea

Rodney Dawes dobey at ximian.com
Fri Apr 30 16:29:01 EEST 2004


I have started on cleaning up some of the Icon Theme related bits to
be more applicable to icons other than application icons in the Programs
menu. I have a couple patches, and a list of about 300 or so icons and
images that can be standardized on. It is attached below. It is by no
means complete, or a definitive list, but I have put a lot of thought
into the problem. I would definately love to be involved in solving the
issues surrounding the icon theme spec. I think what I have is a good
start to what all the desktops need out of icon themes, so let me know
what people think. I'd like to complete the list a bit more and get some
people started on implementing the changes. It would be awesome to be
able to actually share icon themes.

-- dobey

>         From:Jonathan Riddell <jr at jriddell.org>
>         Date: 14April 2004 00:42:46 BST
>         To:thos at gnome.org
>         Subject: Forward:K-ARTIST: Re: New project request/idea
>         
>         
>         Looks like someone also thought of having standard icon names.
>         Time
>         consuming but something that ought to be done.
>         
>         Jonathan
>         
>         ----- Forwarded message from Waldo Bastian <bastian at kde.org>
>         -----
>         
>         From: Waldo Bastian <bastian at kde.org>
>         To: xdg at freedesktop.org
>         Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 16:52:01 +0200
>         Cc: kde-artists at kde.org
>         Subject: K-ARTIST: Re: New project request/idea
>         
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>         
>         On Tue April 13 2004 16:05, Sean Middleditch wrote:
>                 On Tue, 2004-04-13 at 09:46, Alexander Larsson wrote:
>                         On Tue, 2004-04-13 at 18:24, Jakub Steiner
>                         wrote:
>                                 I recall Rodney Dawes was working on a
>                                 draft for icon filenaming
>                                 convention. It would make a lot of
>                                 sense to share a common set of file
>                                 names. I cannot locate the message,
>                                 nor URL though. Dobey?
>                         
>                         I tried to come up with this initially when
>                         creating the icon theme
>                         specification itself, but there seemed to be
>                         little interest in it.
>                         Here is the discussion:
>                         
>                         https://listman.redhat.com/archives/xdg-list/2002-September/msg00039.html
>                         
>                         By now, each desktop has their own names for
>                         icons, and it think it'll
>                         be very hard to change it. The names are
>                         pretty much a part of the
>                         ABI/API in some sense.
>                 
>                 It would be possible to do a slow transition between
>                 current code and
>                 the desktops' next incompatible release.  Basically,
>                 icons would need
>                 aliases (done internally by each implementation), so
>                 that gnome-cdrom
>                 and device-cdrom (for example) would really be the
>                 same application.
>                 The desktop-specific names would be deprecated, and
>                 the next
>                 incompatible release would drop them.
>                 
>                 Not pretty, no, but may be the only option if this
>                 "problem" is goingto
>                 be fixed.
>         
>         The first step would need to be to list all the icons of the
>         twoenvironments, 
>         identify those that are equivalent and propose a "standard
>         name" forsuch 
>         icon.
>         
>         Not pretty and quite some work, but one of those things that
>         has to bedone if 
>         we want to turn the linux desktop into a single platform away
>         from its 
>         current split-personality.
>         
>         Cheers,
>         Waldo

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