Tuomas Kuosmanen tigert at tigert.com
Fri Nov 4 11:20:14 PST 2005

> We appreciate and welcome any improvement in terms of usability and
> appearance. But we think that the ubiquitous usage of a specific icontheme
> to
> solve the issues you are trying to fix is the wrong answer to the right
> question.

Can you explain what is your solution to the problem of the visual mess
that is the free desktop today?

If you think this is just another theme, well, did you read anything on
the website? We try to explain the problem we are trying to solve, do you
not see it as a problem at all?

> Although I like KDE on NOVELL/SUSE LINUX very much (I'm using it myself
> since
> years on a daily basis) I consider mailinglists for an icontheme
> incorporating and promoting NOVELL's corporate identity _abuse_ of this
> forum.

The colours are actually something you can propose to change if you feel
they are a problem. When used in icons though, I dont really think they
will scream any corporate identity, nor were they designed to do so. My
car is blue, but it does not remind me of Pepsi, even though the colour
might be close to the one in the logo.

> Otherwise we would feel the need to advertise KDE's visual identity on
> this
> site as well by providing a comparable offer using the _very_ popular and
> _very_ complete "Crystal" icontheme which almost has become a "standard"
> of
> its own due to its circulation.

Werent you going to replace everything with this "Oxygen" theme in KDE

Come on dudes. Its time to grow up. We can try talking the buzzwords of
"usability" and whatever - but we need to realize our emperor has no
clotches. Whoever thinks there will be One True Toolkit that all
applications will use, so that we can by that achieve consistency on the
desktop, well, needs to actually go outside and look over the shoulders of
*a real user*. Someone who is not part of our own community.

People use APPLICATIONS. Gimp. Skype. Acroread. Firefox. Openoffice. All
looking like a mess together, because there is no standard. No
consistency. We want to solve that. Is that not important?

This is an invitation for *co-operation* - so we can together create the
visual identity of Linux (and other free software desktops) - is that


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