Danny Kukawka danny.kukawka at
Thu Mar 29 15:13:56 PDT 2007

On Freitag, 30. März 2007, Holger Macht wrote:
> On Thu 29. Mar - 22:58:10, Richard Hughes wrote:
> > On Thu, 2007-03-29 at 23:52 +0200, Holger Macht wrote:
> > > I don't why it's only me seeing the problem here? You want to have
> > > Shutdown() and Reboot() on _every_ system, but not mandatory the other
> > > methods. If you don't have a pm application providing "the other"
> > > methods,
> > > you need to implement them somewhere else to meet the spec's
> > > requirements. And that seems wrong to me. If you need to implement
> > > them a
> > > second time, you could do it right at the one place where you need
> > > them
> > > compulsory, the desktop base. You won't need a pm app then.
> >
> > I don't think you need to define the interface in the desktop
> > base. I think saying "at least something will provide" is good
> > enough; for instance:
> >
> > XFCE can just build the interface into the base session layer with a
> > thin wrapper around HAL
> > GNOME can use gnome-power-manager
> > KDE can use kpowersaved or guidance-power-manager
> I'm talking about a GNOME or KDE _without_ gnome-power-manager or
> kpowersave.

IMO this is something the desktop and not a powermanager should implement. 
KPowersave for example also don't call HAL to Shutdown, it call simply KDE to 
handle this (via DCOP and in KDE4 IMO via DBus). 

The desktop should know what to do if a shutdown get reqested. IMO this is 
needed central in the desktop somewhere and not in the interface, 
because this isn't necessarily powermanagement. You want this also if there 
is no application handling powermanagement.

Btw. What think the desktop ppl about this?


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