Adding an Accessibility Category to the Desktop Menu Specification?
sblachmann at gmail.com
Tue May 24 22:02:15 UTC 2016
I have to correct myself, sorry.
> Thus, Gnome and KDE advocates should be aware that this is an
> issue that does affect only people that do _not_ use DEs.
This is wrong.
As Samuel explained very well:
> Thinking again about it, this makes unattended launches more difficult.
> Such launches can be useful when a sighted user is working, and a
> non-sighted co-worker comes to work over something. Starting the screen
> reader from a launcher just for the time when he is there, and not
> permanently through configuration, makes complete sense.
Let me explain this problem using another disability as example. As I am deaf,
I have to use screen flashing utilities as a replacement for the beeper.
(See here for example:
Thus if I have to do things on another ones' computer account which
require me to
notice beeps I would be forced to change settings, and change them back to
original settings after finishing. In other words, I would be forced
to change the
system configuration _twice_.
If I could just go the menu path Utility->Accessibility->Visual_Bell
to run the utility,
then there won't be any need to tamper with the system configuration.
Thus a category "Accessibility" makes perfect sense imho.
On 5/24/16, Stefan Blachmann <sblachmann at gmail.com> wrote:
> If I understand Sam correctly, his suggestion is about adding an
> additional category Utilities→Accessibility. (see
> https://standards.freedesktop.org/menu-spec/latest/apas02.html )
> First, Gnome and KDE are not xdg menu specification compliant.
> Second, these DEs have a settings menu. Window managers like FVWM do
> not have such.
> Thus, Gnome and KDE advocates should be aware that this is an issue
> that does affect only people that do _not_ use DEs.
> Thus imho it makes perfect sense and is actually overdue to add such a
> subcategory “Accessibility” to the xdg menu spec.
> On 5/24/16, Samuel Thibault <samuel.thibault at ens-lyon.org> wrote:
>> Bastien Nocera, on Mon 23 May 2016 11:54:44 +0200, wrote:
>>> We also prefer to have any accessibility utilities integrated directly
>>> in the Settings panel, instead of launching separate applications. This
>>> is the reason why we removed the orca launcher in GNOME now.
>> Thinking again about it, this makes unattended launches more difficult.
>> Such launches can be useful when a sighted user is working, and a
>> non-sighted co-worker comes to work over something. Starting the screen
>> reader from a launcher just for the time when he is there, and not
>> permanently through configuration, makes complete sense.
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