Spec to define the default terminal?
Roman Chistokhodov
freeslave93 at gmail.com
Thu May 25 14:02:31 UTC 2017
There's already lowercase version in XDG_MENU_PREFIX variable (it also
usually includes trailing '-') which is part of menu spec. But I'm not sure
if it's applicable here.
On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 4:59 PM, Vladimir Kudrya <vladimir-csp at yandex.ru>
wrote:
> Merged, thanks!
>
> $XDG_SESSION_DESKTOP... Not sure. Probably it's from pam_systemd.
> It would be more reliable to take lowercase of $XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP then.
>
> 2017-05-25 16:53, Roman Chistokhodov пишет:
>
> I found error in processing TryExec. Made pull request.
>
> What the specification is XDG_SESSION_DESKTOP part of?
>
> On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 2:03 PM, Vladimir Kudrya <vladimir-csp at yandex.ru>
> wrote:
>
>> I'm backing up my proposal with some code:
>>
>> https://github.com/Vladimir-csp/xdg-terminal-exec
>>
>> Please test.
>>
>>
>> 2017-05-25 10:09, Vladimir Kudrya пишет:
>>
>> So now xdg-termial is a collection of workarouds to tie different DE's
>>> approaches together. Just like xdg-open.
>>> IMHO, there should be a movement towards proper standards.
>>>
>>> @Simon, with your remarks taken into accout, here is an update:
>>> Using desktop entries to define terminals gives advantages to downstream
>>> tools (selector GUIs, etc.) by providing proper descriptions, l10n.
>>> Places to look could be extended beyond /usr, into a proper
>>> ${XDG_DATA_[HOME|DIRS]} hierarchy, so it would look like this:
>>>
>>> Terminal descriptios:
>>> ~/.local/share/xdg-terminals ($XDG_DATA_HOME)
>>> {/usr/local/share,/usr/share}/xdg-terminals ($XDG_DATA_DIRS)
>>>
>>> Configs:
>>> ~/.config/$desktop-xdg-terminals.list ($XDG_CONFIG_HOME)
>>> ~/.config/xdg-terminals.list
>>> /etc/xdg/$desktop-xdg-terminals.list ($XDG_CONFIG_DIRS)
>>> /etc/xdg/xdg-terminals.list
>>>
>>> If this logic would be embeded into xdg-terminal, that would be a great
>>> start.
>>>
>>> 2017-05-25 09:16, Simon Lees wrote:
>>>
>>>> We already have the xdg-terminal binary which launches the terminal
>>>> based off the currently running desktop. I think a better approach would
>>>> be to integrate with that existing infrastructure, it could be modified
>>>> for example to check for the existence of a config file in 1 maybe
>>>> several dirs (I guess a sysadmin may want to configure a default
>>>> terminal for all his users).
>>>>
>>>> That config file would contain the path to the terminal followed by the
>>>> exec command. This approach is less secure as someone could modify the
>>>> config file without you realising (I guess this could happen anyway).
>>>>
>>>> I don't like the idea of describing exec arguments only somewhere in
>>>> /usr, it would mean that if I was working on a machine that I didn't
>>>> have root access to and I wanted to use some less popular or new
>>>> terminal that hadn't been added to the list yet I wouldn't be able to. I
>>>> also wouldn't be able to use a terminal that I had built from source in
>>>> my home dir and added to my path.
>>>>
>>>> I also think in the days of the X11 / wayland transition prefixing the
>>>> config files with xdg- rather then x- is a better approach, I may be on
>>>> my own with that though.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>>
>>>>
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