A standard for global/desktop environment shortcuts to prevent conflicts with Linux apps

[Cassidy James Blaede]

It is not FD.o's responsibility to dictate how apps behave on macOS. macOS
is not an FD.o platform. If an app is attempting to target FD.o platforms
and macOS, they obviously need to make changes dependent on the target
platform—but that's outside of FD.o.

On Mon, Jun 8, 2020 at 4:31 PM Nate Graham <nate at kde.org> wrote:

> Yes, I suppose every application shortcut that uses Ctrl should replace
> it with Command when run on macOS. Back when I was a Mac guy, apps which
> didn't do this were very annoying. Seems like a reasonable thing to add
> to the spec.
>
> Nate
>
>
>
> On 6/8/20 4:23 PM, Sparr wrote:
> > This spec does not just apply to whole desktop environments. It claims
> > to apply to applications as well. I am calling out applications that run
> > both in FOSS desktop environments AND in other environments.
> >
> > GIMP is one such example. Until recently, GIMP used the same set of
> > libraries to build for Mac and Linux, and the same shortcuts (unless the
> > user changed them). For example, it used ctrl+c for "copy" on both OSes.
> > However, since it has gained the ability to run natively on macOS,
> > instead of through an X11 server, the default shortcuts have been
> > changed such that they are ctrl+c on non-mac OSes and command/super+c on
> > mac.
> >
> > I don't think this is a serious issue, but it's still relevant to the
> > development of cross-platform applications like that.
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 8, 2020 at 3:14 PM Nate Graham <nate at kde.org
> > <mailto:nate at kde.org>> wrote:
> >
> >     I'm not sure it's relevant. This spec is for FOSS desktop
> environments.
> >     Typically you aren't going to be installing Plasma or GNOME on a Mac
> on
> >     top of macOS. You might wipe macOS and install a FOSS OS, in which
> case
> >     the spec fully applies with no issues.
> >
> >     Nate
> >
> >
> >
> >     On 6/8/20 4:11 PM, Sparr wrote:
> >      > I think it's worth calling out, although I suspect most of us are
> >      > already aware, that in macOS most applications use the
> >     command/super key
> >      > for shortcuts that would use ctrl in other OSes, while still also
> >     using
> >      > ctrl and option/alt as application modifier keys as well.
> >      >
> >      > I do not expect cross-platform apps to change their behavior on
> >     macOS as
> >      > a result of this standard, even if they are otherwise compliant.
> >      >
> >      > On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 5:37 PM Nate Graham <nate at kde.org
> >     <mailto:nate at kde.org>
> >      > <mailto:nate at kde.org <mailto:nate at kde.org>>> wrote:
> >      >
> >      >     On 5/6/20 6:05 PM, Noah Davis wrote:
> >      >      > Start key == Windows key. Maybe I didn't use the right
> >     name, but I've
> >      >      > always called it the Start key since it opens the start
> >     menu. It's
> >      >      > called Meta in Qt and Super in GTK.
> >      >
> >      >     ...And if you're using a Mac keyboard, the command key (the
> >     one with
> >      >     the
> >      >     cloverleaf symbol on it) maps to
> >     Meta/Super/Win/Start/whatever we're
> >      >     calling it. :)
> >      >
> >      >     +1 for the original proposal. Since GNOME is already doing
> this,
> >      >     perhaps
> >      >     we could make a formal XDG spec recommending it. Seems pretty
> >      >     logical to me.
> >      >
> >      >     Nate
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