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<p> I would very much like to receive some additional feedback and a
rough assessment of whether this concept has any chance of being
turned into a spec.</p>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">2017-05-25 18:21, Vladimir Kudrya
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<p>Script updated.</p>
<p>Now the list of config files is pregenerated based on
$CONFIG_HIERARCHY and $XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP treated as lists.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">2017-05-25 17:07, Vladimir Kudrya
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<p>From here: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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<blockquote type="cite">This is determined from taking the
ascii-lowercase form of a component the environment variable
$XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP, which is a colon-separated list of names
that the current desktop is known as.</blockquote>
I'll make the changes accordingly.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">2017-05-25 17:02, Roman
Chistokhodov пишет:<br>
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<div>There's already lowercase version in XDG_MENU_PREFIX
variable (it also usually includes trailing '-') which is
part of menu spec. But I'm not sure if it's applicable
here.<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 4:59 PM,
Vladimir Kudrya <span dir="ltr"><<a
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<p>Merged, thanks!</p>
<p>$XDG_SESSION_DESKTOP... Not sure. Probably it's
from pam_systemd. <br>
It would be more reliable to take lowercase of
$XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP then.<br>
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<div class="m_-3949264598335887016moz-cite-prefix">2017-05-25
16:53, Roman Chistokhodov пишет:<br>
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<div>I found error in processing TryExec. Made
pull request.</div>
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What the specification is XDG_SESSION_DESKTOP
part of?</div>
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at 2:03 PM, Vladimir Kudrya <span dir="ltr"><<a
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wrote:<br>
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style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px
#ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I'm backing
up my proposal with some code:<br>
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Please test.<br>
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2017-05-25 10:09, Vladimir Kudrya пишет:
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style="margin:0 0 0
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solid;padding-left:1ex"> So now
xdg-termial is a collection of
workarouds to tie different DE's
approaches together. Just like
xdg-open.<br>
IMHO, there should be a movement
towards proper standards.<br>
<br>
@Simon, with your remarks taken into
accout, here is an update:<br>
Using desktop entries to define
terminals gives advantages to
downstream tools (selector GUIs,
etc.) by providing proper
descriptions, l10n.<br>
Places to look could be extended
beyond /usr, into a proper
${XDG_DATA_[HOME|DIRS]} hierarchy,
so it would look like this:<br>
<br>
Terminal descriptios:<br>
~/.local/share/xdg-terminals
($XDG_DATA_HOME)<br>
{/usr/local/share,/usr/share}/<wbr>xdg-terminals
($XDG_DATA_DIRS)<br>
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Configs:<br>
~/.config/$desktop-xdg-termina<wbr>ls.list
($XDG_CONFIG_HOME)<br>
~/.config/xdg-terminals.list<br>
/etc/xdg/$desktop-xdg-terminal<wbr>s.list
($XDG_CONFIG_DIRS)<br>
/etc/xdg/xdg-terminals.list<br>
<br>
If this logic would be embeded into
xdg-terminal, that would be a great
start.<br>
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2017-05-25 09:16, Simon Lees wrote:<br>
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style="margin:0 0 0
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solid;padding-left:1ex"> We
already have the xdg-terminal
binary which launches the terminal<br>
based off the currently running
desktop. I think a better approach
would<br>
be to integrate with that existing
infrastructure, it could be
modified<br>
for example to check for the
existence of a config file in 1
maybe<br>
several dirs (I guess a sysadmin
may want to configure a default<br>
terminal for all his users).<br>
<br>
That config file would contain the
path to the terminal followed by
the<br>
exec command. This approach is
less secure as someone could
modify the<br>
config file without you realising
(I guess this could happen
anyway).<br>
<br>
I don't like the idea of
describing exec arguments only
somewhere in<br>
/usr, it would mean that if I was
working on a machine that I didn't<br>
have root access to and I wanted
to use some less popular or new<br>
terminal that hadn't been added to
the list yet I wouldn't be able
to. I<br>
also wouldn't be able to use a
terminal that I had built from
source in<br>
my home dir and added to my path.<br>
<br>
I also think in the days of the
X11 / wayland transition prefixing
the<br>
config files with xdg- rather then
x- is a better approach, I may be
on<br>
my own with that though.<br>
<br>
Cheers<br>
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