<div dir="ltr"><div>This spec does not just apply to whole desktop environments. It claims to apply to applications as well. I am calling out applications that run both in FOSS desktop environments AND in other environments. GIMP is one such example. Until recently, GIMP used the same set of libraries to build for Mac and Linux, and the same shortcuts (unless the user changed them). For example, it used ctrl+c for "copy" on both OSes. However, since it has gained the ability to run natively on macOS, instead of through an X11 server, the default shortcuts have been changed such that they are ctrl+c on non-mac OSes and command/super+c on mac. I don't think this is a serious issue, but it's still relevant to the development of cross-platform applications like that.</div> <div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Jun 8, 2020 at 3:14 PM Nate Graham <<a href="mailto:nate@kde.org">nate@kde.org</a>> wrote: </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">I'm not sure it's relevant. This spec is for FOSS desktop environments. Typically you aren't going to be installing Plasma or GNOME on a Mac on top of macOS. You might wipe macOS and install a FOSS OS, in which case the spec fully applies with no issues. Nate On 6/8/20 4:11 PM, Sparr wrote: > I think it's worth calling out, although I suspect most of us are > already aware, that in macOS most applications use the command/super key > for shortcuts that would use ctrl in other OSes, while still also using > ctrl and option/alt as application modifier keys as well. > > I do not expect cross-platform apps to change their behavior on macOS as > a result of this standard, even if they are otherwise compliant. > > On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 5:37 PM Nate Graham <<a href="mailto:nate@kde.org" target="_blank">nate@kde.org</a> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:nate@kde.org" target="_blank">nate@kde.org</a>>> wrote: > > On 5/6/20 6:05 PM, Noah Davis wrote: > > Start key == Windows key. Maybe I didn't use the right name, but I've > > always called it the Start key since it opens the start menu. It's > > called Meta in Qt and Super in GTK. > > ...And if you're using a Mac keyboard, the command key (the one with > the > cloverleaf symbol on it) maps to Meta/Super/Win/Start/whatever we're > calling it. :) > > +1 for the original proposal. Since GNOME is already doing this, > perhaps > we could make a formal XDG spec recommending it. Seems pretty > logical to me. > > Nate > _______________________________________________ > xdg mailing list > <a href="mailto:xdg@lists.freedesktop.org" target="_blank">xdg@lists.freedesktop.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:xdg@lists.freedesktop.org" target="_blank">xdg@lists.freedesktop.org</a>> > <a href="https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/xdg" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/xdg</a> > </blockquote></div></div>