[Xesam] oscaf/xesam ontology merge: who is going to maintain/edit what?

[Evgeny Egorochkin]

On 5 июня 2009 13:51:11 Ivan Frade wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Count me in for the maintenance of the ontologies. One important point is
> to move the things fast, so a responsive maintainer is vital (an active guy
> or more than one maintainer).

I can be quite active if you bug me often :)

> I can act as co-maintainer of NFO (help from original authors welcome). I
> wouldn't take more ontologies unless necessary, because i plan to
> propose/maintain some extensions we have here on the queue.
>
> I would like to discuss NID3 and NEXIF (and probably NCAL).

> About tracking systems, i feel more confortable with bugzilla, and allows
> pretty complex queries (if custom reports are needed).

From my experience, trac is just as good for us. adding 2-3 criterias is 
usually enough to narrow the search results to just a handful.

On the other hand, the ability to do wiki markup is very much appreciated. In 
our case it isn't going to be a bug tracker, rather it will be a discussion 
space.You can expect people to post elaborate proposals and documents.

> We have a bugzilla
> already in freedesktop, and we can copy the currently open tickets there by
> hand; we can keep the old bugzilla for reference, and indicate clearly that
> it is closed and all the new bugs should be reported in the new bugzilla.

It's a very bad thing.What happens if we want to move our issue tracker again?
And I'd like to stress this point once more: this is an *issue* tracker. It 
means it documents the decision process. It's very important to be able to 
search all stuff at once to see if some issue was discussed before, what 
people said, how it was resolved etc.

> So the tools are:
>
> IRC: #xesam in freenode
> Mailing list: this one (xesam at lists.freedesktop.org)
> Bugtracking: bugzilla in freenode (* just proposed *)
>
> Publishing of the drafts:
> The ontologies and documentation should be in the freedesktop git
> repository (if it exists) or XESAM web server.

FDO seems to only offer CVS, so we need to host our git repo somewhere else.

> And i wonder how to do the
> refreshing of the web pages. Any idea about this? Who is the web master in
> FDO? Can we use the original nepomuk scripts for that? is it java? python?
> bash? can we run then in the freedesktop server? what about using the XESAM
> server for this? Mikkel, ping?

We need to decide which namespace to use for Xesam. if it's xesam.org, then 
FDO  stuff is a non-issue. Using FDO as a namespace isn't a very good idea. 
You generally want to have the namespace uri to also be an uri of a page that 
documents the ontology. Also we could try and use semanticdesktop.org to host 
ontologies(not repository)

> Regards,
>
> Ivan
>
> On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 11:49 AM, Philip Van Hoof <spam at pvanhoof.be> wrote:
> > On Thu, 2009-06-04 at 20:14 +0200, Roberto Guido wrote:
> > > On Thu, 2009-06-04 at 18:18 +0200, Leo Sauermann wrote:
> > > > I would like to know the names of people who
> > > > feel responsible to work for the quality. I would like to see an
> > > > ontology maintainer/editor for each ontology.
> > >
> > > Here I am: after so many criticism, I'm curious to follow the game as
> > > near as possible. I candidate myself for NMO.
> >
> > Note that NMO will be among the most difficult to maintain as me and
> > Evgeny Egorochkin have already made quite a bit of changes to it, that
> > will somehow have to be upstreamed.
> >
> > You can find a TTL of the NMO as how we'll need it here:
> >
> > http://git.gnome.org/cgit/tracker/tree/data/ontologies/34-nmo.ontology
> >
> > > Pro:
> > > - enough time to follow evolution of discussions
> > > - supported by an italian company involved in semantic free software
> > > development (and perhaps next OSCAF member ;-) )
> > >
> > > Cons:
> > > - little experience in maintainance of large projects, so a mentor
> > > would be appreciated at least in the beginning
> >
> > I'm sure Evgeny Egorochkin will help you with that, wont you Phreedom?
> >
> > > Waiting for comments.
> > >
> > > > Please give me an account and point me to the "welcome to
> > > > freedesktop" page explaining how things work
> > >
> > > http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/AccountRequests
> > >
> > > I also would need an account, but I remember someone in this list
> > > already mentioned some action in Freedesktop to obtain resources about
> > > ontologies development hosting: any news?
> >
> > --
> > Philip Van Hoof, freelance software developer
> > home: me at pvanhoof dot be
> > gnome: pvanhoof at gnome dot org
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> >
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