Status of xserver/debrix/modular tree?

[Alex Deucher]

On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 04:34:03 +0100, Bernardo Innocenti
<bernie at develer.com> wrote:
> Daniel Stone wrote:
> > On Thu, Feb 10, 2005 at 01:28:55AM +0100, Bernardo Innocenti wrote:
> >
> >>The Xserver wiki page says the project is dead, pointing
> >>users to Debrix.  The link to Debrix, however, has
> >>disappeared from FreeDesktop's Software directory and
> >>the Arch repository doesn't work any more.
> >>
> >>Actually, the page was still there:
> >> http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software_2fdebrix
> >>
> >>...so I found out that Debrix migrated from arch to bazaar.
> >>I tried checking it out, but it's mostly old stuff which
> >>doesn't even build.
> >
> >
> > Interesting.  If you check out daniel at fooishbar.org/debrix--devel--0.1
> > (as opposed to daniel at fooishbar.org--2004/...), it should build and work
> > fine.  I put in some work a few weeks ago into ensuring that you could
> > bootstrap cleanly from the bottom of xlibs to the top of Debrix, so it
> > should all work.
> 
> Thank you!  Checking it out right now...  I'll let you know as soon
> as I find some time to test it.  Could you please update the wiki and
> restore the link to it from the Software page?
> 
> 
> >>The modular xlibs and xapps trees seem to receive very
> >>little development.  It also looks like they're not
> >>being kept in sync with the monolitic tree.  The XCB
> >>enabled libX11 would be a nice new feature which already
> >>works fine today.
> >
> > Er, you do realise that the modular xlibs is fully in sync with the
> > modular tree?
> 
> I didn't notice, and I vaguely remember reading a post in the xorg
> list saying that xlibs and xapps were abandoned/unmaintained.
> Later on, I was surprised to see more commits going into it.
> 
> 
> >>I'm curious about the future deriction of these projects?
> >>Is there a plan of some kind?  If so, where is it being
> >>discussed?
> >
> > Some would argue that the future is modularisation.  Others have
> > argued that it's doomed to fail and we shouldn't even try.  That
> > debate is happening right now (on xorg@ -- it's very hard to miss),
> > and that will determine the future direction of the project.
> 
> As silly as I may seem, I did miss it.  Now I've browsed
> through February's xorg archives and I still can't find it.
> What's the exact subject?
> 
> By the way, my $0.02 on this is that modularizing is the
> only way to keep a huge project maintainable.  Distributors
> split up xorg's distribution in several smaller packages anyway.
> 
> 
> > xserver@ and xlibs@ are considered dead lists, as we moved them to be
> > within xorg at .
> 
> That's a good move IMHO.
> 
> 
> > As for the communication thing, well -- sometimes the communication
> > happens on IRC, or sometimes there just isn't any.  People know what
> > they have to do, and often do them.
> 
> I tried logging on #xorg once, but there were mostly users,
> not Xorg developers, so I gave up.
> 

Try #freedesktop
That's where all freedesktop related project (not just xorg)
developers hang out.

Alex