System freeze - is X the reason?

[Juergen Gaida]

Alex,

I currently cannot reproduce the problem :-(( , well it is also :-)) .

I am now with Xorg.conf without any of your proposed amendments, AGP 8x in BIOS as well as AGP FastWrite enabled. On top, compositor is enabled as well. 
Graphic speed seems quite ok for such old and lean system.

However, when ever a problem comes up I will try to apply your proposed changes.

Do you know any stress test to crash Xorg in case there is something wrong or broken? Just to force the error?

Thanks so far.

Best regards
Jürgen
--- Alex Deucher <alexdeucher at gmail.com> schrieb am Mo, 10.11.2008:

> Von: Alex Deucher <alexdeucher at gmail.com>
> Betreff: Re: System freeze - is X the reason?
> An: jpg153 at yahoo.de
> CC: xorg at lists.freedesktop.org
> Datum: Montag, 10. November 2008, 16:23
> On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 3:06 AM, Juergen Gaida
> <jpg153 at yahoo.de> wrote:
> > Alex,
> >
> > ah, ok, wasnt sure about "any"...sometimes a
> problem for non-native EN'ers.
> >
> > I will give it a try.
> >
> > Is there some explanation behind these switches?
> 
> Option "DRI" "False"
> 
> Disables 3D support and use of the drm for command
> submission.
> 
> Option "AGPMode" "4"
> 
> force the AGP mode to 4x (default is whatever the hw is set
> to by the bios)
> 
> Option "BusType" "PCI"
> 
> Force use of PCI gart rather than AGP gart
> 
> 
> > What is then about all the acceleration (3D,
> Direct???) of the card and the so called compositor...
> > (I am quite new to Linux, so I am not used to this
> terminology and all that stuff).
> >
> 
> DRI support (3D) is required for GL-based compositors like
> compiz.
> 
> Alex
> 
> > Thanks in advance.
> >
> > Regards
> > Jürgen
> >
> >
> > --- Alex Deucher <alexdeucher at gmail.com> schrieb
> am Mo, 10.11.2008:
> >
> >> Von: Alex Deucher <alexdeucher at gmail.com>
> >> Betreff: Re: System freeze - is X the reason?
> >> An: jpg153 at yahoo.de
> >> CC: xorg at lists.freedesktop.org
> >> Datum: Montag, 10. November 2008, 6:33
> >> On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 3:42 PM, Juergen Gaida
> >> <jpg153 at yahoo.de> wrote:
> >> > Alex,
> >> >
> >> > somewhat later than expected, but...
> >> >
> >> > Finally, my Zenwalk is up and running since
> some
> >> hours...
> >> >
> >> > What I did:
> >> > 1. Went in MB BIOS and set AGP Speed to 4x
> (instead of
> >> 8x (was before) or automatic)
> >> > 2. Applied the changes you proposed in
> Xorg.conf (all
> >> 3 lines in the graphic card device section)
> >> >
> >> > So, what did the trick?
> >> >
> >> > How can I/we get to the point to know which
> of the
> >> settings makes the system stable or the opposite?
> >> >
> >>
> >> Try each setting (driver and bios) individually. 
> The
> >> options I suggested:
> >> Option "DRI" "False"
> >> Option "AGPMode" "4"
> >> Option "BusType" "PCI"
> >> only have an effect individually.
> >>
> >> Alex
> >>
> >>
> >> > Any hint where to start and any 'stress
> test'
> >> to get a result sooner than after hours or days?
> >> >
> >> > Thank you so far!
> >> >
> >> > Best regards
> >> > Jürgen
> >> >
> >> > --- Alex Deucher
> <alexdeucher at gmail.com> schrieb
> >> am Fr, 7.11.2008:
> >> >
> >> >> Von: Alex Deucher
> <alexdeucher at gmail.com>
> >> >> Betreff: Re: System freeze - is X the
> reason?
> >> >> An: jpg153 at yahoo.de
> >> >> CC: xorg at lists.freedesktop.org
> >> >> Datum: Freitag, 7. November 2008, 0:00
> >> >> On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 5:58 PM, Juergen
> Gaida
> >> >> <jpg153 at yahoo.de> wrote:
> >> >> > Alex,
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I will try, but its midnite, so
> maybe later
> >> on Friday.
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> No problem.
> >> >>
> >> >> > Other observation: When the system
> is getting
> >> off from
> >> >> pute Text output, some messages get fancy
> letters
> >> (looks
> >> >> like everything kyrillic and all kind of
> >> "extra"
> >> >> signs).
> >> >> > Does it mean anything?
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> the vga fonts may not be restored
> properly.
> >> >>
> >> >> Alex
> >> >>
> >> >> > Thank you so far
> >> >> > jpg
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > --- Alex Deucher
> >> <alexdeucher at gmail.com> schrieb
> >> >> am Do, 6.11.2008:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> Von: Alex Deucher
> >> <alexdeucher at gmail.com>
> >> >> >> Betreff: Re: System freeze - is
> X the
> >> reason?
> >> >> >> An: jpg153 at yahoo.de
> >> >> >> CC: xorg at lists.freedesktop.org
> >> >> >> Datum: Donnerstag, 6. November
> 2008,
> >> 23:33
> >> >> >> On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 5:21 PM,
> Juergen
> >> Gaida
> >> >> >> <jpg153 at yahoo.de> wrote:
> >> >> >> > Hi,
> >> >> >> > I am having serious trouble
> in
> >> getting
> >> >> Zenwalk 5.2
> >> >> >> running on my machine -
> currently the
> >> only Linux
> >> >> running is
> >> >> >> the Knoppix 4.0 Live-CD (I have
> tested
> >> several).
> >> >> >> > Zenwalk 5.2 installs, but
> freezes
> >> randomly,
> >> >> but soon.
> >> >> >> > The Xorg.O.log tells a lot,
> but I
> >> dont
> >> >> understand lot
> >> >> >> of this stuff.
> >> >> >> > However, at the end of the
> log,
> >> there is a
> >> >> >> "tossed event" and
> some other
> >> lines
> >> >> which tell me
> >> >> >> no good.
> >> >> >> > But where to start solving
> the
> >> problem - if
> >> >> thats the
> >> >> >> cause of freezing the system.
> >> >> >> > I have put the log file on
> pastebin:
> >> >> >> >
> http://pastebin.com/m23e8d2d5
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> It could be.  Do any of the
> following
> >> option help
> >> >> (add them
> >> >> >> to the
> >> >> >> device section of your config):
> >> >> >> Option "DRI"
> "False"
> >> >> >> Option "AGPMode"
> "4"
> >> >> >> Option "BusType"
> >> "PCI"
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Alex
> >> >> >>
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