[newb] Will xorg still allow non-hal config?
gmane at colin.guthr.ie
Sat Nov 29 10:12:09 PST 2008
> Hi all,
> sorry about the naive questions, I am a mandriva cooker tester/user, and
> I have just discovered recently that soon, I'll have to start HAL to get
> working device under X. So I have a few comments/questions:
> 1) Today, if you are not under the gas factory desktops, gnome/kde, you
> don't need HAL. I never used/needed HAL. Will xorg still allow users to
> not use HAL?
Yes. Some platforms that Xorg is on do not support hal. But that said,
there are lots of things in Gnome/KDE that just don't work without HAL,
so more and more you will need it for correct operation. Is there any
reason you have a problem using hal?
At the moment, Xorg will automatically disabled kbd/mouse devices unless
you set the AllowEmptyInput flag in the server.
From the man page:
Option "AllowEmptyInput" "boolean"
If enabled, don't add the standard keyboard and mouse
drivers, if there are no input devices in the config file. Enabled by
default if AutoAddDevices and AutoEnableDe‐
vices is enabled, otherwise disabled. If AllowEmptyInput
is on, devices using the kbd or mouse driver are ignored.
> 2) I am not competent to understand the need of HAL under xorg. But I am
> experienced enough to understand that doing so will increase the
> probability of X failure by, at least, the one of HAL failure. Why
> taking such a risk?
While I cannot answer for certain, I believe the end goal is to have X
"just work" One of the best ways to get information about what devices
exist on the system is to use HAL. The alternative would be to implement
functionality very similar to HAL in xserver itself, but why reinvent
> 3) Does Xorg plan is to become a big unique freedesktop/operating system
> in itself, sort of windows like? [<--- tease :)]
?? Xorg is the xserver and related drivers and apps. While this is a
critical part of the puzzle I doubt this is anywhere near comparable to
what you would call a operating system.
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