McDonald, Michael-p7438c Michael.McDonald at
Thu Apr 9 12:16:46 PDT 2009


> -----Original Message-----
> From: xorg-bounces at 
> [mailto:xorg-bounces at] On Behalf Of Jim Gettys
> Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 11:54 AM
> To: McDonald, Michael-p7438c
> Cc: xorg at
> Subject: RE: Documentation?

> Would that we got a fresh slate (and all new applications); a design
> done today would be very different than what we did in 1986.  

That's undoubtable true since we like to think we learn from past
mistakes. Recurring evidence to the contrary not withstanding.

But I for one think you guys did one hell of a good job coming up with
X11. There are a lot more things right with it than there are wrong.
Most of those 20 year old programs do still work. You can't say that
about a lot of systems.

> But you've
> just heard the complaints from others on this thread who have
> (*demonstrably*) broken programs from 20 years ago who complain about
> any change at all.
>                            - Jim

Uhhh, I still use Xmh as my mail reader and ctwm without the "glorious"
transparent menus for my Unix/Linux desktop. So I tend to side with the
"stick in the mud" crowd. I, personally, am not against adding new
functionality. I just like my existing stuff to keep working. I also
side with the "you broke it, you fix it" philosophy instead of the
current "if someone is still using that, let them fix it" trend.

Mike McDonald

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