X.Org Foundation Board of Directors 2010 Election

Cody Maloney cmaloney at theoreticalchaos.com
Tue Feb 16 10:45:35 PST 2010

Since there's been a lot of other server stuff thrown around, anyone
have any idea how much bandwidth fd.o uses?

Cody Maloney

On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 11:19 AM, Daniel Stone <daniel at fooishbar.org> wrote:
> Hi,
> On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 07:00:40PM +0100, Matthias Hopf wrote:
>> On Feb 16, 10 09:20:44 -0800, Keith Packard wrote:
>> > On Tue, 16 Feb 2010 17:54:56 +0100, Matthias Hopf <mhopf at suse.de> wrote:
>> > > But something like $100 / month sounds like a reasonable upper limit for
>> > > me, and you should actually get by for half of it.
>> >
>> > We've got three servers and a switch; the 3U servers are $1200/year, and
>> > the 2U server + switch is $600.
>> Thanks for the insight, Keith!
>> These prices look reasonable for rented servers. Question is rather
>> 1) are the servers in X.org's possession or rented
> Two of them are kind of in X.Org's possession, but have effectively been
> donated to MIT by Sun with the caveat that they're for the exclusive use
> of the X.Org Foundation (yeah, I know this is weird -- shrug).  The
> other (expo.x.org, which is actually online) I believe to be in the
> Foundation's possession, but I can't say for sure.
>> 2) why we had this many servers at all
> expo (the 2U machine) was there originally, and this serves the needs of
> *.x.org fairly well.  The 3U machines were donated by Sun and were
> earmarked for backup, redundancy, sharing fd.o workload (including
> mirroring), etc.
>> 3) why are 3U servers needed (drives, or are they just in the possession
>>    of Xorg - in that case buing some new cheaper to host hardware might
>>    be interesting)
> It's just what we got.  I'm reasonably surprised that 3U space
> apparently costs as much as 2x 2U spaces though ... hm.  In any case, I
> don't see anything particularly wrong with 3U.  Certainly, it doesn't
> make any sense at all to go to 1U: most (close to all, really) of the
> fd.o performance problems we've had have come from crap disks, and you
> don't get better disks with a smaller form factor.
> If we're going to buy hardware, then I'd personally recommend 2U units
> (the HP ProLiant DL385s we have for fd.o have been fantastic), but as
> these were donated and aren't a significant financial drain relative to
> our funding base, I don't see any reason to ditch them if they're useful
> to us.
> Certainly it would be useful to get them up and running for backups,
> maybe testing, and redundancy at some point in the future.  We actually
> tried a while ago, but had myriad issues with them and ended up just
> leaving it.
>> Going forward it's probably a good thing that we have enough server
>> power, and I assume it's just the good ol' "nobody has any time left to
>> work on that" issue.  :-/
> :)
> Cheers,
> Daniel
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