Question about the future of Xorg

[gene heskett]

On 7/7/25 09:09, Vladimir Dergachev wrote:
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> On Mon, 7 Jul 2025, gene heskett wrote:
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>> On 7/7/25 00:05, Vladimir Dergachev wrote:
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>>> With KDE (kubuntu) there is "Discover" package manager that runs 
>>> from user space. It asks you for root password before you install.
>>>
>>> I actually thought that's how synaptic worked as well, but maybe I 
>>> forget.
>>>
>>> Starting X apps as another user will not work unless you share your 
>>> Xauthority file or disable that.
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>> I thank you for your interest.
>>
>> Disable?
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> This is for X only, not Wayland, and one can use "xhost -".
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> But on my system sudo sets up XAUTHORITY variable so it is not 
> necessary. I only use it when I need to start something from another 
> user or lost the environment and ssh -Y won't do.
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>> How?
>>
>> I'm the only user, and I can sudo anything else UNTIL I try to run 
>> synaptic from a shell. Its available in the bookworm menu's and ask's 
>> me for my usr pw and then runs ok on Wayland. But running it directly 
>> from a shell with sudo is denied with a snotty msg I assume comes 
>> from some non gui app that has yet to reveal its identity.  Using the 
>> mouse to activate the menu is frustrating because the mouse, despite 
>> being programmed for 1 pixel which should make it slow, actually 
>> moves 20 or more pixels just for hovering my hand above it, true with 
>> every mouse, mostly logitek M325's, that I have, making it damned 
>> near impossible to actually click on the correct name in the menu's 
>> gui.  copy/paste opertions have to be undone and re-pasted several 
>> times to get it right. It has moved the pointer enough to miss the 
>> name by up to 4 names. And this bullet-like speed mouse seems not to 
>> be debian related, I'm running 3 3d printers with armbian, jammy is 
>> usable but nobel is spastic often refusing to redraw the mouse and 
>> all 3 with suitable mice, can move the pointer over all of a 27" 
>> monitors with under 2" of mouse motion. I am considering redoing the 
>> whole front end using jammy only.
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> I am not sure I understood it about the mouse - it moves too fast on a 
> specific window?
No, all the time, any window, on several machines running bookworm or 
noble. Armbian is presently a *buntu derivative.
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> Vladimir Dergachev
Thank you.
>> I also run 4 metal carving machines with linuxcnc, all running Wheezy 
>> as its taken years to get linuxcnc running with python3. Those are 
>> also using the logitek M325 mouse but on Wheezy they are good. I'm on 
>> speaking terms with OpenSCAD.
>>
>>> best
>>
>> Thank you Vladimir Dergachev
>  Cheers, Gene Heskett, CET.

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