Question about the future of Xorg
Michel Dänzer
michel at daenzer.net
Tue Jun 24 07:23:34 UTC 2025
On 2025-06-11 03:53, Felipe Contreras wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 10, 2025 at 1:11 AM Carsten Haitzler
> <raster at rasterman.com> wrote:
>> On Mon, 9 Jun 2025 19:23:02 -0600 Felipe Contreras
>> <felipe.contreras at gmail.com> said:
>>>
>>> Clearly there's many _users_ that will stick with Xorg, but some
>>> _developers_ need to ensure that it keeps working. Who is going
>>> to do that in the years to come?
>>>
>>> That's what I'm trying to find out.
>>
>> well the way it used to work back in the 80's and 90's is ... this
>> is where you stop waiting for someone else to do it and get up and
>> do it yourself.
>
> Of course, and that's what I've done with multiple projects. But
> then political nonsense kicks in and meritocracy is thrown out the
> window. Maintainers end up believing they are my boss and are
> entitled to my free time.
Let me point out you're doing something similar here: You're expecting current members of the xserver project to commit to *maintaining and developing Xorg indefinitely*.
Multiple project members are keeping the lights on for Xorg. They don't owe any more than that to you or anyone else. Some of them would presumably rather spend their time on something else.
> Why would I go through that pain again if there isn't a **single**
> developer on the project committed to the Xorg server?
The fact that nobody else has stepped up for more is on those who haven't stepped up, not on those keeping the lights on.
> It does seem Enrico Weigelt was the only one, so why wouldn't I
> contribute to XLibre instead? 1 developer is infinitely more percent
> than 0.
Enrico clearly demonstrated in the xserver project he lacks the technical competence to lead Xorg in any useful direction and the social skills to participate in a community project. Don't let that stop you though.
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Earthling Michel Dänzer \ GNOME / Xwayland / Mesa developer
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