On Mon, Apr 12, 2021 at 08:23:33AM -0700, Rob Clark wrote:
On Mon, Apr 12, 2021 at 7:28 AM Daniel Vetter daniel@ffwll.ch wrote:
On Thu, Apr 08, 2021 at 08:23:42AM -0700, Rob Clark wrote:
On Thu, Apr 8, 2021 at 4:15 AM Daniel Vetter daniel@ffwll.ch wrote:
On Mon, Apr 05, 2021 at 10:45:23AM -0700, Rob Clark wrote:
From: Rob Clark robdclark@chromium.org
One would normally hope not to be under enough memory pressure to need to swap GEM objects to disk backed swap. But memory backed zram swap (as enabled on chromebooks, for example) can actually be quite fast and useful on devices with less RAM. On a 4GB device, opening up ~4 memory intensive web pages (in separate windows rather than tabs, to try and prevent tab discard), I see ~500MB worth of GEM objects, of which maybe only 10% are active at any time, and with unpin/evict enabled, only about half resident (which is a number that gets much lower if you simulate extreme memory pressure). Assuming a 2:1 compression ratio (I see a bit higher in practice, but cannot isolate swapped out GEM pages vs other), that is like having an extra 100+MB of RAM, or more under higher memory pressure.
Rob Clark (8): drm/msm: ratelimit GEM related WARN_ON()s drm/msm: Reorganize msm_gem_shrinker_scan() drm/msm: Clear msm_obj->sgt in put_pages() drm/msm: Split iova purge and close drm/msm: Add $debugfs/gem stats on resident objects drm/msm: Track potentially evictable objects drm/msm: Small msm_gem_purge() fix drm/msm: Support evicting GEM objects to swap
Given how much entertainement shrinkers are, should we aim for more common code here?
Christian has tons of fun with adding something like this for ttm (well different shades of grey). i915 is going to adopt ttm, at least for discrete.
The locking is also an utter pain, and msm seems to still live a lot in its own land here. I think as much as possible a standard approach here would be really good, ideally maybe as building blocks shared between ttm and gem-shmem drivers ...
I don't disagree.. but also replacing the engines on an airplane mid-flight isn't a great option either.. ;-)
The hard part (esp. wrt to locking) is tracking the state of a given bo.. ie. is it active, active+purgable, inactive+purgable, inactive+unpinnable, etc. Currently the shmem helpers don't really provide anything here. If they did, I suppose they could provide some shrinker helpers as well. Unfortunately these days I barely have enough time for drm/msm, let alone bolting this onto the shmem helpers. I would recommend that if someone wanted to do this, that they look at recent drm/msm shrinker patches that I've sent (ie. make shrinker->count() lockless, and drop the locks in shrinker->scan() body.. when the system is under heavy memory pressure, you start getting shrinker called from all the threads so contention for mm_lock can be a really bad problem)
(Well, the other potential problem is that drm/msm has a lot of different possible iommu pairings across the generations, so there is some potential here to uncover exciting new bugs.. the locking at least is the same for all the generations and pretty easy to test with and without lockdep with some tests that push essentially all memory into swap)
So what we aimed for with i915 and discrete gpu is to first align on locking with dma_resv_lock for all buffer state, plus a bunch of lru/allocator locks for lists and stuff.
And then with more aligned locking, figure out how to maybe share more code.
The trouble is that right now neither shmem helpers, nor drivers using them, are really using dma_resv_lock to protect their per-buffer state.
We are actually already using dma_resv_lock() since a few release cycles back.. msm_gem_lock() and friends are a wrapper around that from the migration away from using our own lock).. the mm_lock is symply protecting the lists, not the objects
Oh I thought there were still some warts here scanning through your series. I guess I got confused, yay :-)
So yeah it's a bit an awkward situation, and I don't know myself really how to get out of it. Lack of people with tons of free time doesn't help much.
So best case I think is that every time we touch helpers or drivers locking in a big way, we check whether it's at least slightly going towards dma_resv_lock or not. And at least make sure we're not going backwards, and maybe not spin wheels at standstill.
I guess my question is, what would be good to have to make sure we at least all agree on the overall direction?
I guess if gem_shmem users aren't already using resv lock, moving in that directly would be a good idea. Maybe it would make sense to build more object state tracking into gem_shmem helpers (ie. so you can know which buffers are active/purgable/unpinnable/etc without traversing a list of *all* gem objects).. that seems like pushing it more in the direction of being ttm-style frameworky compared to the simple helper API that it is now. But maybe that is a good thing?
Moving shmem helpers is on the todo already.
https://dri.freedesktop.org/docs/drm/gpu/todo.html#move-buffer-object-lockin...
And yes I think letting everyone reinvent their buffer locking scheme wasn't the best idea. But otoh ttm was a monolith, and before Maarten spent a lot of time pulling out dma_fence/resv and ww_mutex it really wasn't reasonable to align with the design without pulling in the entire monolith. The code improved a lot in this regard.
Also yeah I think pushing more object state into shmem helpers would probably be good, but ideally not on the current locking ... -Daniel
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-Daniel
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-Daniel
drivers/gpu/drm/msm/msm_drv.c | 2 +- drivers/gpu/drm/msm/msm_drv.h | 13 ++- drivers/gpu/drm/msm/msm_gem.c | 155 +++++++++++++++++-------- drivers/gpu/drm/msm/msm_gem.h | 68 +++++++++-- drivers/gpu/drm/msm/msm_gem_shrinker.c | 129 ++++++++++++-------- drivers/gpu/drm/msm/msm_gpu_trace.h | 13 +++ 6 files changed, 272 insertions(+), 108 deletions(-)
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