[Clipart] logo contest

Jon Phillips jon at rejon.org
Thu Aug 19 13:28:53 PDT 2004

Yeah, maybe we should just pick a logo in the next few days that is
simple, and hopefully we can look into this more in 6 months and make a
decision. After we have a solid image, should build on a while and more
importantly get all our eyes on knocking out roadmap items.

We are coming up on the end of the month...it is the 19th!!!

IMO: Logos can change for style updates, but should stay similar.
However, some other form of contest would be great to bring the project
up globally. But, like I said before, we have much other things to do to
pretty up the site. The upload tool really needs a usability gloss over.
Also, the logo choice will seriously affect the site...


On Thu, 2004-08-19 at 10:14, Bryce Harrington wrote:
> On Thu, 19 Aug 2004, Tobias Jakobs wrote:
> > Bryce Harrington <bryce at bryceharrington.com> schrieb am 18.08.04 23:57:04:
> > > On Wed, 18 Aug 2004, Tobias Jakobs wrote:
> > > > > I suspect OCAL will be getting logo submissions continuously, so the
> > > > > best solution is to work with it, and every N months select a new one
> > > > > from the ones submitted so far (never picking the same one twice.)
> > > > > Just treat it as an ongoing effort, follow a standard process, and
> > > > > plan to have the log change over and over again.  :-)
> > > > > 
> > > > I think thats a very bad idea. A logo is important for a the project
> > > > identity, you can't change it every n weeks. We can make release images
> > > > for every release but not change our logo.  
> > > 
> > > Actually, I believe that was the approach adopted at the outset of the
> > > logo project.  I think the cycle selected was 6 months or a year.  
> > > 
> > Even if it was (Do you have a link?), I don't think it is a good idea to change 
> > the logo regularly. 
> Browsing through news.gmane.org, it looks like the thread was 18-20 Jul
> 2004.  This was the same thread that decided on the Aug 15 date.
> Alberto was in favor of a six-month lifetime for logos, with all
> submitted logos continuing on for the next semester.  Jonadab favored
> leaving open the option of sticking with the same logo indefinitely if
> we should decide we really like it, but agreed we should promise a
> limited timeframe of something like six months.  Niku seconded.
> http://news.gmane.org/gmane.comp.freedesktop.clipart/cutoff=1151
> http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.freedesktop.clipart/882
> There are several reasons why I think this is a good approach.  First
> and foremost, it is a high profile, exciting way for new artists to get
> involved in the project - some people just dig competitions.  Second,
> while we have a good crop of logos so far, I'm certain we're going to
> get better ones in the future, as our artists become more and more
> skilled, so it would be wonderful to have a process that lets us and
> them take advantage of it.  It will demonstrate to our users the
> increasing skill and diverse styles of the artists involved in the
> project.  Third, I think part of the essence of this project is to help
> the open source community gain talent at creating things like logos, so
> this is a good learning opportunity.  Fourth, a new logo every so often
> would emphasize to our users that "wow, stuff must have changed - if the
> logo is changing that often, their clipart must be changing often too!
> I'd better go check it out."  And finally, based on my past experience
> with logo competitions in other projects, you really can't turn off the
> submissions - even if we said tomorrow "this is the logo and we're
> sticking to it", my bet is that we're going to get a few new logo
> submissions a week, no matter what.  ;-)
> It's true that a logo can have importance in identification of the
> project, although since we're not a company nor produce a program with
> an icon that people will see, I'm not sure how necessary that is.  In
> any case, I think if we were able to realize any one of the benefits
> listed above, it'd be well worth the sacrifice.  Hopefully we'll get the
> full range of benefit.  And besides, getting new logos is fun.  :-)
> Anyway, I also suspect that even if the decision is to stick with one
> logo permanently, in six months or a year folks will want to change
> again anyway for various reasons, so even if we do want to pick a
> "permanent" logo at this time I still think we'll end up changing it
> periodically and gaining the benefits above, so I'd be ok with that
> decision.
> Bryce
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