[Clipart] Firefox trademarks

[Bryce Harrington]

Yes, I do think we should be explicit about it.  Folks would want to
know why their submission was rejected if there were rules about it.

Perhaps we could say, "No trademarked images" with the upload tool, and
then define it in more detail in the guidelines.

Bryce

On Tue, 13 Jul 2004, Jon Phillips wrote:

> I agree...nothing that is not placed in the public domain explicitly.
> Companies will sue for identity.
> 
> Should I add this to the File and Style Guidelines? What do you all
> think? I think we should be explicit about this. Also, should this be
> placed on the main page, or just the guidelines? Thoughts?
> 
> Jon
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, 2004-07-13 at 19:59, Bryce Harrington wrote:
> > On Tue, 13 Jul 2004, Jonadab the Unsightly One wrote:
> > > Bryce Harrington <bryce at bryceharrington.com> writes:
> > > 
> > > > Yeah, logos and other trademarked items tend to have a lot of
> > > > conditions attached to them, and I wonder if it wouldn't be safer to
> > > > simply exclude all trademarked images.  I'd assume they're not
> > > > placed in the public domain anyway.
> > > 
> > > I agree that it would be safest to exclude images with significant
> > > trademark issues from the collection.
> > > 
> > > I have no idea whether Wilbur is a trademark.  He's a logo and a
> > > mascot, but I never investigated his legal status.  I've never been
> > > very clear on the FSF's stand on trademarks, though I think I have a
> > > fair idea what their stance on patents is.  I poked around on gimp.org
> > > and didn't find anything about this.  Unless someone knows, maybe we
> > > should ask.
> > > 
> > > Any image related in any way to Mozilla.org is almost surely
> > > trademarked, for historical reasons having to do with Netscape.
> > 
> > Regarding whether or not open source app logos are trademarked, I think
> > the BEST thing we can do for the community is to treat them as if they
> > were.  I think if we were to pick some app's logo and declare it Public
> > Domain, regardless of whether it was trademarked, could cause harm to
> > that project.  
> > 
> > Plus, the situation with non-trademarked logos is murky.  Unlike the
> > GPL, where the copyright is _explicity_ and unchangeable, with a
> > non-trademarked logo, we don't know for certain what the status is, nor
> > can we be absolutely certain that the trademark is "in progress" and
> > might show up later.
> > 
> > Thus for all these reasons together, I think a blanket "no logos and no
> > trademarked items" policy would be safest for everyone.
> > 
> > Bryce
> > 
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