[Clipart] Comma-separated keywords in metadata

Jon Phillips jon at rejon.org
Wed Jun 30 20:35:38 PDT 2004


Yes, the single-login system would be best! Okay...before rworth and I
discussed the necessity of having a static URI for files. It looks as if
now art is separated via categories (which are shifting and not only
dependent on their current main category).

Anyhow, I guess this works for the intermediate, but the static URI is a
useful effort for us to maintain. Thoughts?

Jon


On Wed, 2004-06-30 at 11:08, Bryce Harrington wrote:
> Unless someone is super motivated to work on this, I would suggest
> leaving the (hard variety) authentication until a couple releases down
> the road.  I've set up such systems in the past, and they always end up
> taking a lot more time and effort to get working properly than you'd
> think...  At this point, I think we'd get more bang for the buck to
> focus our time on categorizing and enhancing our current tools and
> website.
> 
> It's possible that once we've set up a few more tools, we may run across
> a convenient way to set up auth.  For example, if/when I finally get
> around to setting up mantis, perhaps it will have an auth system we
> could simply hook into, and in the process gain a single-login situation
> for both.  :-)
> 
> Bryce
> 
> On Wed, 30 Jun 2004, Jon Phillips wrote:
> > We need to provide an ID for artists. We need a soft and hard username
> > system whereby someone can select their artist name without a password
> > and anyone can use it. That is the soft variety.
> > 
> > The hard variety would then be a username/password that saves the
> > artists username and password and provides an ID that refers to our site
> > and contat info for the person -- a form of privacy. This is the hard
> > variety.
> > 
> > RWORTH and I were working on a proposal like this, but I haven't heard
> > from him in a while.
> > 
> > Jon
> > 
> > 
> > On Mon, 2004-06-28 at 22:26, Bryce Harrington wrote:
> > > On Mon, 28 Jun 2004, Jonadab the Unsightly One wrote:
> > > > Okay, so then we should for now concentrate on the stuff that will
> > > > make it easier to add metadata to images without any, probably, or on
> > > > categorization of the images that have the required metadata but are
> > > > unsorted.
> > > 
> > > Yes, agreed.  And particularly something suitable for adding/editing
> > > keywords "as we go" because I figure initially we'll just set up some
> > > broad groups, like 'animals', 'people', 'signs', etc. and then as work
> > > collects folks can add narrower and more specific terms. 
> > > 
> > > > If there are 600+ images _with_ metadata, and _most_ people didn't
> > > > include it, wow, that's a lot of metadataless images sitting around,
> > > > with no author info!
> > > 
> > > Fortunately we had several artists who were very good about submitting
> > > their work as a tarball with a README or other file with their license,
> > > title, and author info, so it was not hard to add the metadata.  We
> > > still have a number of images without metadata, but unfortunately we
> > > also have no way of determining the author info.  See the PASSFAIL
> > > report in the tarball for details.
> > > 
> > > > Should we be adding an optional author-email field to the upload
> > > > script?  I was already thinking of having it at least provide a link
> > > > to a page that lists known/supported optional fields, or something.
> > > > As it stands, the user has to just _know_ what fields they can add,
> > > > which seems wrong.  Maybe instead of the current system for optional
> > > > fields where the user specifies the name and value for the field,
> > > > there could be dropdown lists for the field names, or something?
> > > > (That would be easy to implement...)
> > > 
> > > An email address or URL for the author would be really nice to have,
> > > because then we'd have a way to contact them in case there were
> > > questions.  However I suspect that in many cases the author would not
> > > want their email address going out in the clipart "publically", lest it
> > > wind up on a web page somewhere and some spambot harvests it.  So if you
> > > do add an email address field, also be sure to include a checkbox for
> > > them to specify whether or not the address should be included in the
> > > metadata or not (assuming there's another place to keep the address...)
> > > 
> > > Bryce
> > > 
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