[Clipart] Inclusion of copyrighted logo in your library

[momo]

I agree with the fact that logos should not be included in Openclipart. 
First of all because if someone someday will need to use a copyrighted logo 
somewhere, he MUST require the permission from the copyright holder.

Also, If somebody's in need of a logo in curves, there are lots of websites 
where they can be found like www.brandsoftheworls.com or www.logotypes.ru.

Mo.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jonadab the Unsightly One" <jonadab at bright.net>
To: "Open Clip Art Library" <clipart at lists.freedesktop.org>
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 3:46 PM
Subject: Re: [Clipart] Inclusion of copyrighted logo in your library


> Jose Hevia <jose.francisco.hevia at gmail.com> writes:
>
>> I had multiple times released logos as public domain. Reason is I
>> consider very useful to have a repository when I could get a vector
>> "tux" for giving a presentation (hey, inkscape had one in examples
>> directory from Sodipodi's days!!) or the blender icon for my desktop
>> as the blender foundation doesn't give you one.
>
> The thing is, you can only release an image into the public domain if
> you are the copyright holder.  NO ONE ELSE CAN DO IT.  I don't just
> mean no one else is _allowed_ to do it; I mean no one else is _able_
> to do it.  If I say, "I hereby release the Microsoft Windows logo into
> the public domain", it's still not released into the public domain,
> because I am not the copyright holder, and the copyright holder has
> not released it.
>
> For example, you can only release Tux into the public domain if you
> are Larry Ewing.
>
>> I think this is not bad "per se", if the logo is copyrighted and
>> trademarked you have the right to fight abuses but there are uses in
>> which the use of a copyrighted logo is needed. How do you represent
>> a Windows or Mac partition without resembling trademarked icons?
>
> The existence of permissible uses does not imply that the item is
> public domain.  Public domain means that nobody has the right to fight
> any use or abuse, or that the right has been explicitely waived.  For
> instance, the musical work "Air on AG String" is in the public domain
> because the composer died in A.D. 1750, which is considerably more
> than 70 years ago (or is it 90 years now?  Whatever), and also because
> copyright terms (if they even existed) were rather shorter then.
>
> I agree that it would be useful to have a collection of these logos,
> but the Open Clip Art Library is a public domain clip art collection,
> and these logos are not suitable for inclusion in such a collection.
>
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