[Clipart] clipart Digest, Vol 43, Issue 17

Alan alan at ccnsweb.com
Fri Oct 26 13:34:47 PDT 2007


Hi Jon, what do you think?  This is your dreamchild.

I also know you have been heavily involved in cchost.

Are you willing to let go of cchost in order to see OpenClipart get into
the big times?

They are kind of both your babies, but they seem to be developing
personalities of their own.

Alan

momo wrote:
> As John said (and I completely agree with him) the problem is in the fact 
> that CCHOST is concepted as a sharing tool for non-visual content (sounds, 
> texts...) and is not very suited for cliparts. One of the most successful 
> (from my point of view) engines is the (proprietary) one that is used in 
> www.sxc.hu. It has everything a clipart sharing website needs:
>
> * a search engine that searches among tags (keywords), title and 
> description. CCHOST search engine searches among everything but tags. The 
> tag cloud page is a usability disaster, I can imagine the fear that 
> experiment the common user when seeing it for the first (and sometimes last) 
> time
>
> * a visual browser (you actually see the results and browse them)
>
> * a commenting and rating system
>
> In CCHOST based OCAL, we lack everything apart the commenting system and the 
> rating (broken) system.
> So serious layout changes are needed so the common visitor won't get lost 
> from the homepage.
>
> Molumen
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "John Olsen" <johnny_automatic at mac.com>
> To: <clipart at lists.freedesktop.org>
> Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 3:36 PM
> Subject: Re: [Clipart] clipart Digest, Vol 43, Issue 17
>
>
>   
>> I think the only really important problems right now are related to
>> user interface.
>>
>> 1. broken links all over the place
>> 2. no thumbnails - no user-friendly display of the clipart.  Ideally
>> the display could be much move visual and far less wordy than the
>> current layout.  In any search the items returned do not show a
>> thumbnail (even if there is a PNG currently).  You currently get an
>> entry display that is about 1" x 4-5", depending on your browser,
>> that is full of words but no image.  You can use the same square
>> inches to display a 2"x 2" thumbnail that if you clicked on it would
>> take you to the file's page.  People are here looking for image - not
>> who did it, when it was uploaded, what it's other tags are.  That's
>> all secondary and needs to be off the gallery or preview display.
>>
>> The killer on this seems to be the architecture tied to ccHost which
>> is designed for a non-visual library (music) when we need a layout
>> that is strongly visual.  I don't know how much ccHost can be
>> monkeyed with to display things better.
>>
>> To me, solving these two coding issues would make the site completely
>> usable.  It is all it NEEDS.  The rest is optional and additional
>> features that might never need to be implemented.  Sadly, I can only
>> off the skills I have - which is not coding.
>>
>> Just my 2 cents,
>>
>> John Olsen
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>     
>>> Message: 1
>>> Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 07:33:46 -0600
>>> From: Alan <alan at ccnsweb.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [Clipart] [Open Clip Art Library] frustration
>>> Cc: clipart at lists.freedesktop.org
>>> Message-ID: <471F49BA.9030405 at ccnsweb.com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
>>>
>>>
>>> OpenClipart is brilliant. What do we need to do to get it working as
>>> well as we want it working?
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