[Clipart] PD license

[Oleg Koptev]

I'm not lawyer, but I think 'irreversible' means 'irreversible'. When you
talk about 'company comes along, grab it, copyright it..' it's sounds like —
'I've been freed from jail, but Evil Judge comes along, grabs me and jailed
me again for same crime'. It's nonsense.

12 апреля 2009 г. 11:19 пользователь chovynz <chovynz at gmail.com> написал:

> And then Evil Corporation Number 1 comes along, grabs my nicely finished
> and polished clipart that has taken 6 hours to make, Trademarks and
> copyrights it into their logo, then sues me for using their logo on my
> website.
>
> *"Dedicator recognizes that, once placed in the public domain, the Work
> may be freely reproduced, distributed, transmitted, used, modified, built
> upon, or otherwise exploited by anyone for any purpose, commercial or
> non-commercial, and in any way, including by methods that have not yet been
> invented or conceived." *
>
> Once you release something to the PD, yes it's irreversible. But it means
> that anyone can come along and copyright it, removing that particular
> clipart from the public domain for the next 60 odd years.
>
> It's troublesome to me.
>
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 12, 2009 at 7:06 PM, Oleg Koptev <koptev.oleg at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> chovynz, afaik process of submit something as 'PD' is irreversible
>> process.
>>
>> '*Dedicator intends this dedication to be an overt act of relinquishment
>> in perpetuity of all present and future rights under copyright law, whether
>> vested or contingent, in the Work.*'
>> http://creativecommons.org/licenses/publicdomain/
>>
>>
>> 2009/4/12 chovynz <chovynz at gmail.com>
>>
>>>  I've been thinking about some things, and something keeps coming back to
>>> me.
>>> If I upload something with PD license, there is actually nothing stopping
>>> people or a business from taking that clipart, copyrighting it then suing me
>>> for using my own clipart on my own website/book/CD
>>> cover/tshirt/artwork/publicly available and viewed material.
>>>
>>> Now obviously this has some problems that concern me greatly. First, it's
>>> unfair. Second, ANYTHING in the PD can be copyrighted. Third: While I
>>> respect a number of people, I don't trust humanity as a whole. There will
>>> always be selfish greedy people. While I believe in helping/supporting
>>> people, I'm also aware that there are people who don't give two cents for
>>> the life of another person. These people have no respect for fairness, or
>>> what's right, and there is nothing stopping them from taking a clipart, then
>>> copyrighting or trademarking, which then means that the original PD clipart
>>> is lost to the public. I think there is a majority of people that would
>>> respect the PD license and would continue derivitaves in the same way. But,
>>> all it takes is one person or corporation to do copyright something, and
>>> that clipart is lost to the public for 50-100 years.
>>>
>>> There has been a large effort on the part of CC and some other groups to
>>> limit this unfairness, however everything on OCAL is in the PD. This
>>> concerns me a bit.
>>>
>>> The goal of OCAL is to provide better and better clipart over time. What
>>> is going to happen when someone see's clipart they like and copyrights it,
>>> then askes OCAL to remove it from their Library? What is stopping one person
>>> or corporation from doing so, to ALL the clipart in the library?
>>>
>>> I do not currently see a good solution to this problem, but I think it is
>>> a future issue that needs thinking about and addressing.
>>>
>>> Thoughts?
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Cheers
>>> Chovynz
>>>
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>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> C уважением, Коптев Олег
>> With respect, Koptev Oleg
>>
>> Jabber ID - koptevoleg at jabber.ru
>> WWW — http://ktulhuntu.blogspot.com
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Cheers
> Chovynz
>



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C уважением, Коптев Олег
With respect, Koptev Oleg

Jabber ID - koptevoleg at jabber.ru
WWW — http://ktulhuntu.blogspot.com
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