[Clipart] Licence

[Oleg Koptev]

Fully agree! There is no sense in keeping such 'non-PD' files in OCAL.
it's only lead to problems, confusion and frustration. there are tons
of websites with free-not-for-commerce cliparts, but OCAL stands aside
from them, primarily because Public Domain licensing - and PD makes
OCAL really rocks. My 0.02 copeck.

2009/7/22, Jan-Olof Eriksson <jan-olof.eriksson at iki.fi>:
> Well this is confusing. If person agrees those terms, he must understand
> that he reliquishing all copyright intrests he may have those images. If
> user cant trust that, then whats the point of these licence? If there
> are images other than PD licence, they should be removed.
>
> J-O.E
>
> "Jarod Russel" <JarodR at gmx.de> kirjoitti 22.7.2009:
>
>>Jan you do missunderstand. This is not a problem of the website. The
>>website is a public platform. It's not like just 2 or 3 people upload
>>cliparts at OCAL. Everyone can do it. The person who uploads the images
>>has to agree that all cliparts uploaded are dedicated to the public
>>domain and therefore they are. But that is still no guarantee! Mistakes
>>can happen all the time. The responsability to make sure the images you
>>want to use are really in the public domain is up to you and not to OCAL.
>>
>>I myself use a some of the images from OCAL for commercial stuff. So far
>>no problems.
>>
>>Jan-Olof Eriksson schrieb:
>>> Well you cant say "do what ever you want with these images" in web site
>>> if thats not true. Then you should change that FAQ etc. Im glad i asked
>>> because this PD lincence sounded too good to be true...
>>>
>>> J-O.E
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Jarod Russel kirjoitti:
>>>
>>>> You're right when wkdesign uploaded his cliparts he agreed to the public
>>>> domain dedication. And I really don't say Gerald did something wrong.
>>>> But if the licence is so clear, why did Gerald put a statement from
>>>> W.Korn on every clipart that the cliparts free to use if they are anyway
>>>> in the public domain?
>>>>
>>>> I found W.Korns website in the wkdesign profile on OCAL and noticed
>>>> he/she is selling cliparts. I mailed him/her and asked that he/she is
>>>> clear about what public domain means and he/she seemed to be suprised.
>>>> I'm afraid I can't find the mail anymore. All I've got is that whats in
>>>> the archives of this mailing list.
>>>>
>>>> http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/clipart/2009-January/008939.html
>>>>
>>>> Here W.Korn statet that the cliparts on OCAL are for personal use only.
>>>>
>>>> This all sounds like too much trouble to me for somebody who wants to
>>>> use the images for commercial use.
>>>>
>>>> Greg Bulmash schrieb:
>>>>
>>>>> He agreed to the public domain dedication when he uploaded them.  If
>>>>> he didn't understand it, he doesn't have a whole lot of legal
>>>>> recourse. He'll be able to delete them himself and stop OCAL from
>>>>> further distributing them, but all current uses based on his upload
>>>>> are going to be protected, including redistribution.
>>>>>
>>>>> It looks like Gerald G's stuff is based on wkdesign's zip file, so
>>>>> Gerald was not out of line or even mistaken when he uploaded those
>>>>> pieces.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Jarod Russel wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Yeah but also if marked so, not every clipart is in the public
>>>>>> domain. As I said in the beginning of the year already, cliparts made
>>>>>> by Gerald G. featuring W.Korn are statet as free. That can mean
>>>>>> everything. Also free for personal use but not for commercial. The
>>>>>> member wkdesign is W. Korn and he stated clearly to me that his
>>>>>> images are not in the public domain.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My guess is some people load up their cliparts or other peoples work
>>>>>> and don't read or don't understand the upload rules at OCAL.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you want to use images from openclipart.com for t-shirt printing
>>>>>> let me tell you there is a risk. Definitly don't use things involving
>>>>>> company names, famous logos, celebrities etc. Those cliparts may be
>>>>>> in the public domain, but that doesn't mean they are free of 3rd
>>>>>> party rights too.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jan-Olof Eriksson schrieb:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Just to make sure, so i can download these images from
>>>>>>> openclipart.org
>>>>>>> and sell them if i want to? Make t-shirts etc?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jan-Olof Eriksson
>>>>>>>
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