[Clipart] Status of the uploads to the website

[chovynz]

I'm not the one who can answer your questions.

And yes, I'm well aware that this mailing list is for everyone not
just Librarians. I did not state otherwise. :) I agree with all that
you have written.

However, as I replied, as far as I know (which is an educated guess),
only Jon, Michi and Basil(?) can fix this particular problem. And they
haven't said anything in reply to the emails which I've sent them.

Someone has dropped the ball, that I can't pick up (which I would have
otherwise picked up), and don't know what skills are needed, since
communication has effectively stopped. Which is sad, because the
potential of OCAL is far more than this *little* group that we
currently have.

I don't know what we are waiting for. I don't know what the problems
are, but everything has halted. This is not a good situation, and last
time I tried to say something I was told -paraphrased "Remember this
is a volunteer thing. Solutions take time." So ... Since I can't fix
the problem, and this is a "volunteer thing", I decided to not push
too hard and just wait. I can wait as long as I need to.

If Jon or Michi ends up listening to you, that's great! we can move
forward again. I frankly don't care who fixes the problem, as long as
someone does. I can't. Good luck in attracting their attention. :)



On 9/21/09, worms invasion <wormsxulla at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Well, thanks :-)
>
> I'm a subscriber to this list for almost 2 years now, so I do hang around
> and talk occasionally ;-)
>
> This list is not only for librarians, it's actually the only mean Users, ,
> Clipart contributors, Librarians, and Developers have to communicate about
> OCAL. That's why it receives messages from list subscribers, and also bug
> reports.
>
> As I was saying in my first message on Sept, 11th, uploads to OCAL have
> stopped since July 31st.
> Basically, it means that OCAL, which relies on users contributions for its
> content, appears dead to both the group of Users ("No new cliparts
> uploaded?") and to the Clipart contributors ("where am I going this new
> clipart I made?")
> These two groups are the most numerous groups among the Users, Clipart
> contributors, Librarians, and Developers groups.
> Another thing is that bug reports have not been touched nor assigned.
>
> I do understand that the limited number of people who might be able to fix
> the errors are away or busy. On the other hand, there have been news posted
> to the main OCAL page since the uploads ceased to work, so this means that
> not all are busy all the time or away all the time.
>
> There are many other sites presenting cliparts to the public on the
> Internet, OCAL is great because it represents a community effort to share
> cliparts with the most "open" license. That was, I believe, the goal of its
> founders, people from various projects (Ted Gould, Bryce Harrignton, Jon
> Philips, among others... from the archive of this list, which goes back to
> 2004)
>
> Now, if our site appears unmaintained for a long while - and 6 weeks *is* a
> long time on the Internet - , users will simply be discouraged from
> visiting, and will switch to another clipart site, which might, or might
> not, support the same "cause". We will lose the benefits of years of
> contributions and usage, and that will be a pity, really.
> We will also lose the potential help of new developers, if
> maintenance/development problems appear unanswered.
>
> So, what could be done? Maybe it would be worth to allow more people to be
> involved with the site maintenance? It doesn't need to be a dozen people,
> just a few... with the right permissions?
>
> Thanks for reading, and I hope, answering this concern.
>
> P.S.: I also see nothing new about what we call OCAL 2.0... but in my
> understanding, this is less urgent (although it is important).
>
>
>
> --- On Sun, 9/20/09, chovynz <chovynz at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> From: chovynz <chovynz at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Clipart] Status of the uploads to the website
>> To: "worms invasion" <wormsxulla at yahoo.com>
>> Cc: clipart at lists.freedesktop.org
>> Date: Sunday, September 20, 2009, 6:53 AM
>> Nope. Just, there's nothing the
>> Librarians can do.
>> There's only a limited number of people that can fix the
>> problems
>> server side, and those are busy or away.
>>
>> Just hang in there. When Ocal 2.0 come out it'll be
>> fantastic and I'll
>> be pushing it on all my friends for all it's worth. (and
>> that is worth
>> very much!)
>>
>> On 9/20/09, worms invasion <wormsxulla at yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Hello.
>> >
>> > So... Is OCAL dead?
>> >
>> > Cheers.
>> >
>> > --- On Fri, 9/11/09, worms invasion <wormsxulla at yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> From: worms invasion <wormsxulla at yahoo.com>
>> >> Subject: [Clipart] Status of the uploads to the
>> website
>> >> To: clipart at lists.freedesktop.org
>> >> Date: Friday, September 11, 2009, 6:13 PM
>> >> Hello,
>> >>
>> >> I was wondering whether there was any news about
>> the upload
>> >> problem to http://openclipart.org
>> >>
>> >> The last upload appearing is dated from July,31st
>> 2009, so
>> >> I guess the upload functionality hasn't been
>> restored yet?
>> >>
>> >> We've seen at least two bug reports
>> >> http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=23312
>> >> http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=23527
>> >>
>> >> but nothing in them indicates what has been done.
>> >> There is also no assignee to these bug reports.
>> >>
>> >> Is anyone in charge of checking out the situation,
>> or
>> >> investigating, or... doing what needs to be done,
>> why it
>> >> broke, etc.
>> >>
>> >> Thanks for any information - it would really be a
>> pity if
>> >> OCAL was dying because no clipart can be uploaded
>> :-)
>> >>
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Cheers
Chovynz