[Clipart] Requesting a list of automatic jobs

Sun Apr 11 14:18:27 PDT 2010

https://blueprints.launchpad.net/openclipart/+spec/make-clipart-use-pretty-urls

done.

On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 4:07 PM, chovynz <chovynz at gmail.com> wrote:

>  Nope! :)
> I don't know what you mean, so you might as well file it.
> Here you go ...
> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/openclipart
>
> Cheers
> Chovynz
>
>
> On 12/04/2010 8:50 a.m., Jon Phillips wrote:
>
> We also need pretty urls for the clipart submissions bassel for our SEO and
> discoverability of clipartssss.
>
> Chovynz, can you file this homie.
>
> thx
>
> On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 12:37 PM, chovynz <chovynz at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>  Ok. I'll make some LP things labelled appropriately. Perhaps "Librarian
>> tools - *subject*" Should I put these in Blueprints or bugs? Is anyone
>> looking at blueprints?
>>
>> In between my first email and your reply Jon, it seems that someone has
>> made some existing clipart tags have "SPACE,SPACE" which fixes one of the
>> "problems". So thank you to whoever did that. However, new ones are
>> appearing e.g. http://www.openclipart.org/detail/46183 and some older
>> ones have been missed. e.g. http://www.openclipart.org/detail/22871 .
>> Perhaps a forced automatic format of tags would be in order? As an English
>> student I prefer "COMMASPACE". That way it shouldn't matter how a person
>> enters the commas since it will always end up the same "correctness" and
>> librarians (or coders!) won't have to touch this issue ever again.
>>
>> Speaking of automatic ... Why is there disparity between the number of the
>> latest clipart and teh total clipart statistics? Does this mean we are
>> actually over the 40k mark of clipart? What ones are not appearing?
>> Latest clipart as of this email. Note the number of clipart detail page :
>> http://www.openclipart.org/detail/*46183*<http://www.openclipart.org/detail/46183>
>> Stats box / Total clipart amount : *28563*
>>
>>
>>
>> On 12/04/2010 6:15 a.m., Jon Phillips wrote:
>>
>> I like all these. Please file them for ocal. Ideally we can have some
>> librian tools and give you guys some power over editing clipart in
>> bulk...like a global /librarian page and then special tools that show up on
>> some pages as a librarian....cool
>>
>> Jon Phillips
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>>
>> On Apr 11, 2010 4:05 AM, "chovynz" <chovynz at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hello there!
>>
>> Bassel would problaby be the one to ask since Aiki is his framework, but
>> I'm making this an open question since there may be other questions that you
>> want to ask or answer towards making OCAL better.
>>
>> *My overall question:*
>> What is the list of jobs that can be run automatically behind the scenes?
>> I'd like to know, so that I am not wasting time doing something that can be
>> done easily with scripts, or something that is scheduled for a later date to
>> be run automatically.
>>
>> *My specific questions:*
>> Doing a search for underscore "_" (
>> http://www.openclipart.org/search/?query=_) revealed a number of clipart
>> that need "cleanup" for aesthetic purposes. Namely clipart with
>> long_titles_because_of_underscores_that_break_the_site_CSS_and_design_intent,
>> and clipart from the old OCAL database with tags such as b_w. Now, Jon
>> replied that it's a job of the librarians to remove the underscores in
>> titles, but, combined with tags; that's a mammoth task, and as a librarian,
>> I'd like to know if these jobs can be done in an easier way.
>>
>> *Task #1*: Long titles. Can these underscores in titles be searched for
>> and replaced via a background script to replace the _ in the display title
>> to an ASCII/hex space character?
>>
>> *Task #2* : underscores in tags. Same as above.
>>
>> *Task #2b* : Now that spaces are acceptable for tags, can we please
>> change tags such as "b_w" to "black and white" or "black & white"? Self
>> explanatory names seem better in the long run than shortened abbreviations
>> that might not make sense. (I suggest that this would more affect those who
>> use the site but choose not to register.)
>>
>> *Task #2c* : Can we also search the tags for "," and add a space
>> character to those results? e.g. "country,flag" becomes "country, flag"? I
>> think this was related to the old way of doing OCAL tags. I imagine this
>> would need an excluder for those tags which are already ",SPACE" to avoid
>> the error of ",SPACESPACE"? Having the space after the comma would clean up
>> a whole bunch of clipart that breaks the css site design. e.g.
>> http://www.openclipart.org/detail/154
>>
>> *Task #2d* : Can we please search for and remove any tags on svg files
>> that have "public_domain, svg, media, image"? They are and always have been
>> pointless on OCAL. The only point from old OCAL was that it HAD to be that
>> way because of the cchost framework. That's no longer the case, so I'm of
>> the strong opinion that these tags can be removed without detriment to the
>> OCAL community. The way I see it,* removal* = cleaner tag lists, more
>> efficient searches, faster specifics for tagging, less words for confusion.
>> *nonremoval *= compliance to old traditions that no longer apply,
>> adherence to more confusion to the end user, broken records spinning broken
>> old songs, deadweight on backend system, and sheer laziness. (How was that
>> for some manipulation eh!!? ;) ) For "examples" and "how I did it's"
>> appropriate tags can be added to those entries only. For jpgs or images
>> those tags can be added. For a svg, which is the main reason for OCAL yes?,
>> there is no point having a "svg" tag. Neither is the "media" tag appropriate
>> since that usually describes moving pictures (current/future svg?) or movies
>> or audio. Superfluous tags just waste time. Let's update them and remove
>> them!
>>
>> Are these things able to be done automatically? If not, why not, and what
>> can we do about these to make this job easier? In this day and age I don't
>> see why things should be done manually if they can be done automatically
>> with good clean code, with human oversight.
>>
>> If you think I'm wrong on any of the points or ideas, or if there are
>> better ways, I'd like a discussion on it! Thoughts?
>>
>> Cheers
>> Chovynz
>>
>>
>

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